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drgeoff:
@OE
Read my post above and show me where I said that Obihai published the link.

And the original thrust of this thread was an OBi100.

Post I referred to: https://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=9910.msg65613#msg65613 by Taoman.

OzarkEdge:
Quote from: RFC3261 on June 16, 2015, 08:56:44 am

Quote from: OzarkEdge on June 15, 2015, 12:29:34 pm

... I assume ...

And we all know what assuming does.


Here's the actual quote, worth repeating:

"I assume that Obihai intends to not publish future firmware releases for manual download/installation... you'll have to use the OBiTALK web portal after you pay up for extended support... otherwise, what's the point of it all?"

assuming - used for the purpose of argument to indicate a premise on which a statement can be based.

Assuming is not guessing.  Plenty of supporting facts have been reported here.  OBiTALK.com is charging annually for Extended Support to permit configuring and updating your OBi, albeit in a buggy half-hearted sort of way.  No FUD about it.  Consider it announced.  Be disappointed... be pleased... be resigned... be anything but naïve.

OE

OzarkEdge:
Quote from: drgeoff on June 16, 2015, 10:41:45 am

@OE
Read my post above and show me where I said that Obihai published the link.

And the original thrust of this thread was an OBi100.

Post I referred to: https://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=9910.msg65613#msg65613 by Taoman.


My point is that Obihai has NOT published firmware for manual download in some time, and not since requiring users to pay for Extended Support.  If you do not appreciate what this means to the average OBiTALK.com user who is unaware of secret firmware urls that may soon stop working anyway once they finish baking their portal billing scheme, then I can not explain it any further to you.

OE

RFC3261:
Quote from: OzarkEdge on June 16, 2015, 10:50:09 am

Assuming is not guessing.

Call your statements what you want.  Unless you are an employee of Obihai any statements regarding their future business models or restrictions are still just assumptions, guesses. conjecture, pontification and/or FUD.  No matter how loudly or repeatedly you assert your statements does not change the fact that you do not know the future plans.  As you have already explicitly stated.  So I actually think we are in violent agreement, your posts are worth every penny I paid for them.  However, I have decided that I no longer have a need for them.  Can you issue an RMA so I can return them?

drgeoff:
Quote from: OzarkEdge on June 16, 2015, 10:56:45 am

Quote from: drgeoff on June 16, 2015, 10:41:45 am

@OE
Read my post above and show me where I said that Obihai published the link.

And the original thrust of this thread was an OBi100.

Post I referred to: https://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=9910.msg65613#msg65613 by Taoman.


My point is that Obihai has NOT published firmware for manual download in some time, and not since requiring users to pay for Extended Support.  If you do not appreciate what this means to the average OBiTALK.com user who is unaware of secret firmware urls that may soon stop working anyway once they finish baking their portal billing scheme, then I can not explain it any further to you.

OE

My point was that what you stated was untrue.

"you can't upgrade firmware unless you buy an extended support plan"

Agreed that dowloading and manually updating firmware may be difficult or outside the realms of the average user or may not be possible at some future time. However the blanket claim you made was not true at the time you made it. And despite anything you have written in the meantime it is still untrue as I type this.

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