max number of simultaneous sessions / rings / devices?
jentzd:
SteveInWA and Lavarock7
I certainly would consider a paid service, if it were absolutely necessary. I do not think it will be, certainly have not explored all options yet. Our office phone bill was about $1000/month before switching to google voice. Certainly been there, done that.
I am not at all looking for support from google, or any company(service provider), quite the opposite would be preferred. I hope I was not unclear on that requirement.
To that point, I did have a mild success by following this thread
https://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=7920.0;wap2
With it, I was able to forward calls on a master phone to other phones via the OBi service, while first ringing the master phone "ph". But it still didn't work quite how I'd have thought.
I put a comma seperated list of each of the 7 slave phones to ring. Only the first 2 rang.
What I then tried was registering 3 phones with google voice. Each of the 3 "masters" can then have 2 "slaves" via Obitalk service. This gives a total capacity for 9 phones (more than my 8), has less than 3 phones simultaneously registered (requirement was less than 5), and all 8 phones seem to ring consistently and simultaneously.
There is one down side to this technique. The 5 "slave" phones lose the granularity as to which line the incoming call was on. Additionally, at least using the technique here, each outgoing call is on the same line. Not the worst, but not the best. Better than what I had before, though.
I am going to look at using the obi device itself as a GV to SIP gateway, then just registering each of the slave phones as sip services to the local gv gateway. If this works I should be able to have my cake and eat it too.
If not I will look at simonics. Thanks for the tip about Oauth ( I saw another thread that specifically said they weren't using that, which was the genesis of my concern)
jentzd:
And regarding googles acceptable use policy, we actually already had a google business account, for which each of the accounts are actually paid. It handles all our email, very nice.
Each one of these accounts has its own google voice account. We are just using that.
They now call this technology gsuite.
https://gsuite.google.com/products/gmail/
drgeoff:
Quote from: jentzd on July 30, 2017, 01:29:27 pm
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I put a comma seperated list of each of the 7 slave phones to ring. Only the first 2 rang.
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I am going to look at using the obi device itself as a GV to SIP gateway, then just registering each of the slave phones as sip services to the local gv gateway.
The maximum number of terminals that can be listed in an InboundCallRoute is 4.
You cannot SIP register to OBi10x2 phones. Only the OBi20x (and perhaps the 50x) ATAs have that functionality.
SteveInWA:
Quote from: jentzd on July 30, 2017, 01:33:05 pm
And regarding googles acceptable use policy, we actually already had a google business account, for which each of the accounts are actually paid. It handles all our email, very nice.
Each one of these accounts has its own google voice account. We are just using that.
They now call this technology gsuite.
https://gsuite.google.com/products/gmail/
Google Voice is not part of G Suite. It is not covered by the G Suite SLA, and the fact that you have a G Suite account does not grant you any special status with regard to Google Voice. And, no, you don't have "google voice accounts". Google Voice is a service, not an account. All Google services are accessed via, and linked to, Google accounts, in the same way as Gmail, Calendar, Docs, Maps, etc. You are using a consumer service, under the false assumption that it is part of G Suite.
Every week, over on the Google Voice Help Forum, users post in a panic, because their Google Voice service has been suspended for abuse. Google can do this, per the Terms of Service and Acceptable Use Policy, at any time, at its sole discretion, without warning. Google Voice is not a FCC-regulated telephone carrier, and you have no recourse nor remedy.
In those situations, there is absolutely nothing whatsoever that any Google employee on the Google Voice nor G Suite teams can do to restore service, nor to release the associated phone number for porting out. The numbers become permanently stuck in purgatory, and the business owner has to abandon the numbers and start over, printing new business cards, changing marketing materials, and so on.
https://www.google.com/appsstatus#hl=en&v=status
https://support.google.com/a/answer/6336670?hl=en
You can certainly ignore these facts, at your own risk.
If you are using a "$1000/month" baseline as a comparison to "free", then clearly, you have not made any effort to compare that baseline to what you could get from a SIP VoIP ITSP.
azrobert:
When routing calls to multiple devices, you need to adjust the MaxSessions parameter. The MaxSessions default on my OBi1032 is 4 for the SPx Services, but only 2 on the OBiTalk Service. This would explain why you could only fork calls to 3 devices (Master and 2 Slaves).
The inbound route allows you to route calls to 4 devices (Master and 3 slaves). There is a hack that will allow you to route calls to 7 devices or more.
GV supports a total of 2 simultaneous calls per device. If you have 2 active GV calls on single device, that device will not accept any more GV calls.
I think you're nuts if you ignore Steve's advice. You should at least have a backup plan in place.
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