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Almighty1:
True and that's why until we know what the wiring actually looks like, it will be hard.  With a DSL Splitter, there will be a new dedicated run over a CAT5 cable for the DSL on one of the pairs to handle the DSL circuit itself or actually the easier way to do it would be just to run the telco line from the demarc to the DSL modem using a new cable and just disconnect the house wiring for the voice lines and connect those to the OBI.  It's harder to explain online than it is to do it physically. 

Pedro675:
Quote from: Almighty1 on March 05, 2018, 03:50:17 pm

True and that's why until we know what the wiring actually looks like, it will be hard.  With a DSL Splitter, there will be a new dedicated run over a CAT5 cable for the DSL on one of the pairs to handle the DSL circuit itself or actually the easier way to do it would be just to run the telco line from the demarc to the DSL modem using a new cable and just disconnect the house wiring for the voice lines and connect those to the OBI.  It's harder to explain online than it is to do it physically.

I have only Line 1 connected to Telco. The green and red wires connect to my phone jacks and to the blue and white twisted pair from the street. All my internal house wiring is connected to the green/red (line 1) and black/yellow (line 2), but the black/yellow is not connected to service, except for the wires dangling in the service box.

Once I decide to switch to Obi (and cancel telco phone) I would switch the black/yellow to be DSL (in from blue/white) and disconnect the green/red. Then use a Line 1/Line 2 divider at the wall jack. Line 2 (DSL in) into my router and the line out from Obi to the line 1 on the divider, which would feed all line 1 jacks with Obi phone service.

I think that's the way I read it doing research.

Almighty1:
Quote from: Pedro675 on March 05, 2018, 04:27:40 pm

Quote from: Almighty1 on March 05, 2018, 03:50:17 pm

True and that's why until we know what the wiring actually looks like, it will be hard.  With a DSL Splitter, there will be a new dedicated run over a CAT5 cable for the DSL on one of the pairs to handle the DSL circuit itself or actually the easier way to do it would be just to run the telco line from the demarc to the DSL modem using a new cable and just disconnect the house wiring for the voice lines and connect those to the OBI.  It's harder to explain online than it is to do it physically.

I have only Line 1 connected to Telco. The green and red wires connect to my phone jacks and to the blue and white twisted pair from the street. All my internal house wiring is connected to the green/red (line 1) and black/yellow (line 2), but the black/yellow is not connected to service, except for the wires dangling in the service box.

Once I decide to switch to Obi (and cancel telco phone) I would switch the black/yellow to be DSL (in from blue/white) and disconnect the green/red. Then use a Line 1/Line 2 divider at the wall jack. Line 2 (DSL in) into my router and the line out from Obi to the line 1 on the divider, which would feed all line 1 jacks with Obi phone service.

I think that's the way I read it doing research.


Then that's easier, thought you said you had 2 phone lines and not 1.  Sounds like that's the way to do it. 

Pedro675:
So today I had the Telco technician come by to look at the NID outside the house. He gave me bad news. The wires from the Telco are OK but the in-house wiring is not CAT5, only four single stranded wires, two of which are used for the phone/DSL. I had asked him to come on the (false) premise that I was thinking about putting in a second line. He said that with single single stranded wire there is the good possibility of crosstalk across the wires as these are not twisted pairs. So my plan of using the Line 2 for DSL to the router (switch at box) and Line 1 inside from the Obi adapter to the other phones may not work.

Has anyone had this experience with their Obi and Goggle Voice? This is a two story house with only one cordless phone connected upstairs from a downstairs base. I could run CAT5 wires under the house from the crawl space and rewire the wall jacks I need to use. But not really do I want that work.

Thanks so far for the feedback, but would like some more on this issue.

drgeoff:
Quote from: Pedro675 on March 08, 2018, 11:24:03 am

So today I had the Telco technician come by to look at the NID outside the house. He gave me bad news. The wires from the Telco are OK but the in-house wiring is not CAT5, only four single stranded wires, two of which are used for the phone/DSL. I had asked him to come on the (false) premise that I was thinking about putting in a second line. He said that with single single stranded wire there is the good possibility of crosstalk across the wires as these are not twisted pairs. So my plan of using the Line 2 for DSL to the router (switch at box) and Line 1 inside from the Obi adapter to the other phones may not work.

Has anyone had this experience with their Obi and Goggle Voice? This is a two story house with only one cordless phone connected upstairs from a downstairs base. I could run CAT5 wires under the house from the crawl space and rewire the wall jacks I need to use. But not really do I want that work.

Thanks so far for the feedback, but would like some more on this issue.

I think the possibility of crosstalk causing an issue for your intended use is grossly exaggerated.  (Yes it might be a problem if you wanted to use the 4 wires as two voice pairs - but you are not going to do that.)

Voice and DSL can coexist when on the same pair.  So having them on different pairs should not be a problem.  Put DSL splitter filters at every point where you connect a phone or OBi to the voice pair.  (You won't have anything plugged in to the DSL port on those filters.)

You don't need a filter on the DSL pair.  Your modem (or modem-router) can connect directly to it.  But a filter there won't do harm so it if makes you sleep easier .....

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