Repeat calls"rejected by service provider ... reason 480", Obi 100, simonics, GV

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GPz1100:
To the OP, you could try the dialing the same call through hangouts.  I believe that does pass messages that might be heard from the other end (early media) before the call connection is finalized (stream established)? 

rhk1:
Thanks for the additional replies!  I've pretty much run out of time for now--I may get some more time later tonight.

There was a reason I didn't switch from Google Voice to Hangouts--I think it had to with losing all of my past call history, so I'm not sure I want to try Hangouts.  Any advice on how to try Hangouts without messing up my Google Voice will be appreciated.

(Also, later tonight I'll try to go to my Simon Telephonics account and check the online / offline status and maybe toggle it.)

Oh, and in the context of telephonics, what is media--I assume it is not anything like hard drive or floppy disks--maybe just a working telephone wire--I'll have to read more carefully later and try some googling.

billsimon:
Quote from: rhk1 on March 18, 2018, 12:11:50 pm

Oh, and in the context of telephonics, what is media


Sound.  :)

GPz1100:
On an android device you shouldn't lose anything by trying hangouts.  I can place calls through hangouts (don't forget to install the dialer) and still see the full history in google voice including texts, calls, missed calls and voice messages.

rhk1:
Sorry, I've been "off the air" for a few days due to personal issues (and now snow). ;-)

To bring things up to date:

Sometime Sunday, after seeing the reply from Bill Simon suggesting that:

<quote>
Go to simonics.com/gw and use the button that reads Offline/Online to toggle your account offline and then toggle it back online. If it's already listed as Offline, then maybe your device isn't registered. Check on that.
</quote>

Before trying that, I tried calling one of the numbers, and it worked, so I decided not to toggle the Offline / Online button ("leave well enough alone" ;-) (Of course, no one was there on a Sunday to answer the call, but it did ring and did not give me the "call rejected" message.)

Today I attempted to call the same number and I got the call rejected message.  I went to that simonics.com/gw page and did toggle the Online/Offline button (first offline, then back online) and the call worked (but the person I was calling didn't answer--I was able to leave a message).

So, does that tell us anything?  Narrow down the source of the problem?

For the time being, I'll try to make my calls, and, if I get the rejected message, I'll try the toggle.

I'll report back again if any of:
   * the offline / online toggle doesn't allow me to make the call
   *after a period of time (two weeks or so?) if that (the toggling) seems to work consistently or if I no longer see the problem.

I would still like to know more about the situation, but maybe Bill told me all that can be known at this point when he wrote:

<quote>
Google Voice via XMPP does not provide us any useful information about why a call doesn't go through. It either rings or we get a generic failure message back from Google that is translated by the SIP gateway into 480 Temporarily Unavailable, lacking any better info. It could be busy, disconnected, rejected because of insufficient funding, or other things. This is unfortunate but it's out of our hands.

Also, Google Voice is kind of flaky, and for some people more than others. Why? We don't know because Google doesn't talk about it.
</quote>

I guess in my head, I'm leaning towards thinking it is a Google Voice problem.

Oh, I suppose I might try Hangouts on my Android phone if the problem persists and I feel brave (as I said, I don't want to lose any history I have in Google Voice).

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