want to make calls showing my work mobile number using the Obi. Possible?
Taoman:
Quote from: A_Friend on August 20, 2018, 12:21:42 pm
If you're just going to originate calls, and not receive them, it's pretty straightforward.
If you're going to be helping/assisting people on this forum I suggest getting your terminology right.
Call origination refers to incoming calls. Origination requires a DID/phone number.
Call termination refers to outgoing calls. Termination does not require a DID/phone number.
drgeoff:
Quote from: Taoman on August 20, 2018, 12:43:11 pm
Quote from: A_Friend on August 20, 2018, 12:21:42 pm
If you're just going to originate calls, and not receive them, it's pretty straightforward.
If you're going to be helping/assisting people on this forum I suggest getting your terminology right.
Call origination refers to incoming calls. Origination requires a DID/phone number.
Call termination refers to outgoing calls. Termination does not require a DID/phone number.
I beg to disagree. You have typed "origination" instead of "termination" and vice-versa.
Taoman:
Quote from: drgeoff on August 20, 2018, 12:49:06 pm
I beg to disagree. You have typed "origination" instead of "termination" and vice-versa.
Really?
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Origination:
Simply put, origination is incoming calling. It sounds backwards, you’re not originating the call, but the name refers to the act of handling the originating call and delivering it to you. Because your number sits with your provider, the call comes to them first, and is then routed on to you. You need a phone number to receive origination service.
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Termination:
On the network, and in the industry, phone calls are seen as having two ends and traveling in one direction (even if there is a whole bunch of back and forth). The originating end is where the call is dialed from, and the terminating end is the party being called. Hence, termination is the act of delivering your outbound calls to the numbers you’ve dialed. You don’t need a phone number to terminate (send) calls.
https://blog.flowroute.com/2014/07/24/voip-origination-and-termination-demystified/
drgeoff:
Quote from: Taoman on August 20, 2018, 12:56:01 pm
Quote from: drgeoff on August 20, 2018, 12:49:06 pm
I beg to disagree. You have typed "origination" instead of "termination" and vice-versa.
Really?
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Origination:
Simply put, origination is incoming calling. It sounds backwards, you’re not originating the call, but the name refers to the act of handling the originating call and delivering it to you. Because your number sits with your provider, the call comes to them first, and is then routed on to you. You need a phone number to receive origination service.
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Termination:
On the network, and in the industry, phone calls are seen as having two ends and traveling in one direction (even if there is a whole bunch of back and forth). The originating end is where the call is dialed from, and the terminating end is the party being called. Hence, termination is the act of delivering your outbound calls to the numbers you’ve dialed. You don’t need a phone number to terminate (send) calls.
https://blog.flowroute.com/2014/07/24/voip-origination-and-termination-demystified/
Not hard to find web pages which say the opposite. Eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termination_rates
contains:
'The fundamental principle of any telecommunications network is to allow calls originating from a subscriber A to reach a subscriber B, whether on the same network or on another network, commonly known as “any to any connectivity”. In more technical terms, traffic, originating from Subscriber A is terminated at a point of destination, Subscriber B, and in order to allow for traffic to be routed and terminated between different operators, “interconnection” must be established.'
Depends on where you are viewing from. As far as the caller is concerned when he dials a number he is originating a call. From the ITSP's perspective, their role is to terminate that call.
Taoman:
In industry standard VoIP parlance, origination and termination mean exactly what I posted.
I'm amazed you feel differently. Ask anyone in the industry what the terms mean.
IMHO, the example you gave was a poor one. In my view, they were using the term to mean "initiating" a call rather than the more formal VoIP term of "call origination." And the article was about termination rates.
Since you chose to use a wikipedia example so will I.......among others:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_origination
https://www.thinq.com/the-ins-and-outs-of-voip/
http://www.itswapshop.com/articles/voip-origination-vs-termination-what-difference-explained
https://www.voip-info.org/voip-termination/
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