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Ember1205:
Quote from: scott818 on December 18, 2018, 06:56:19 am

Quote from: SteveInWA on December 10, 2018, 05:34:48 pm

However, if a Google Voice phone number is not used for some unspecified time interval (formerly 9 months, now undisclosed duration based on new algorithms), it will be reclaimed (taken back by Google).  "used" means:  make outbound calls or send text messages.  Inbound doesn't count, as an abandoned number will still receive robocalls.

I would hope that doesn't apply to numbers that were ported into GV.


Why wouldn't it? You can maintain "control" over the number so long as you're showing that it's being used (meaning you could port it somewhere else if you wanted). But, the "owner" of the number is GV (or whomever). If you demonstrate that you've abandoned the number, they are not required to maintain it for you indefinitely.

If you stopped paying your phone bill, your telecom provider would have the right to reclaim your number and issue it to someone else. Since there's no actual payment here, the only way to prove you're still using the number is to actually use it.

scott818:
Quote from: Ember1205 on December 18, 2018, 08:36:00 am


Why wouldn't it? You can maintain "control" over the number so long as you're showing that it's being used (meaning you could port it somewhere else if you wanted). But, the "owner" of the number is GV (or whomever). If you demonstrate that you've abandoned the number, they are not required to maintain it for you indefinitely.

If you stopped paying your phone bill, your telecom provider would have the right to reclaim your number and issue it to someone else. Since there's no actual payment here, the only way to prove you're still using the number is to actually use it.



Well, considering it costs a whopping $20 to port a number into GV, I would hope they wouldn't be so stringent with the users who paid. A lot of people park their numbers with GV. I've never heard of any other provider charging a customer to port in a number. I am sure there are some but it's rare.

Ember1205:
Quote from: scott818 on December 18, 2018, 09:18:10 am

Quote from: Ember1205 on December 18, 2018, 08:36:00 am


Why wouldn't it? You can maintain "control" over the number so long as you're showing that it's being used (meaning you could port it somewhere else if you wanted). But, the "owner" of the number is GV (or whomever). If you demonstrate that you've abandoned the number, they are not required to maintain it for you indefinitely.

If you stopped paying your phone bill, your telecom provider would have the right to reclaim your number and issue it to someone else. Since there's no actual payment here, the only way to prove you're still using the number is to actually use it.



What if you instead look at it as Google charges a one-time fee while every other vendor charges recurring fees for porting in that number? Any other provider charges you for service every month. Stop paying THAT bill, and your number will get "reclaimed" by the provider.

Well, considering it costs a whopping $20 to port a number into GV, I would hope they wouldn't be so stringent with the users who paid. A lot of people park their numbers with GV. I've never heard of any other provider charging a customer to port in a number. I am sure there are some but it's rare.

SteveInWA:
Quote from: scott818 on December 18, 2018, 06:56:19 am

Quote from: SteveInWA on December 10, 2018, 05:34:48 pm

However, if a Google Voice phone number is not used for some unspecified time interval (formerly 9 months, now undisclosed duration based on new algorithms), it will be reclaimed (taken back by Google).  "used" means:  make outbound calls or send text messages.  Inbound doesn't count, as an abandoned number will still receive robocalls.

I would hope that doesn't apply to numbers that were ported into GV.


Ignore the answers from Ember1205.

The correct answer is:  if you ported in the number, it will never be reclaimed, since it wasn't Google's carrier's number to begin with.

To make the lawyers happy, this disclaimer applies:  you can continue to use Google Voice with that number, as long as you comply with Google Voice's Terms of Use and Acceptable Use Policy.  If you violate those rules, your Google Voice service may be suspended at any time.  You can appeal the suspension, but if your appeal is denied, then you can no longer use the service, and that phone number goes to purgatory.  There is no way to port out a number after an account has been suspended.  Technically, all US phone numbers are the property of the FCC-regulated Local Exchange Carriers to which those numbers were originally issued, according to the NANPA numbering plan.  Customers do not own their numbers.  Carriers permit their customers to use the carriers' numbers, as long as the customer complies with their terms of use.  Customers have no legal control over the use of the number, beyond that.

Ember1205:
Quote from: SteveInWA on December 18, 2018, 05:57:04 pm

Ignore the answers from Ember1205.



Apparently, I've somehow offended you somewhere... Your response could have simply started with something like "actually, there's more to the story" or "That isn't actually how Google has it set up to work."

I was merely discussing the topic and never said I knew the answer for certain.

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