OBi110+ 1GV+ 1 PSTN, + SAME GV as VONAGE EXTENSION
RonR:
Quote from: Everton on October 15, 2011, 01:41:31 pm
Quote from: RonR on October 15, 2011, 12:31:36 pm
This is a limitation intentionally built into the OBi for a very strange marketing reason and will be removed in a future generation of OBi's.
Do you care to elaborate what this strange marketing reason is? Also, you stated that it will be removed on "future generation of OBi's"...does that mean it cannot be removed by firmware enhancements and users will have to buy a new OBi ATA to take advantage of these currently disabled features?
This whole thing seems like a farce to me and users will be really pissed if what is implied is indeed true!
When I originally discovered this problem, I assumed it was a bug or simply a design oversight:
InboundCallRoute vs Calling Features Evaluation Order Problem
When I didn't get a response, I sent numerous lengthy emails to Obihai pointing out the seriousness of the problem and explaining how easy it is to fix by simply reordering a couple of lines of code in the OBi firmware. Much to my surprise the exchanges were finally terminated by the following declaration from Obihai:
"We do not have a misunderstanding. The point I am making in my message is that the OBi device is designed for personal use. Enabling SIP/PSTN, SIP/SIP, SIP/GV, GV/PSTN gateway calling is not part of the current design. In the future we will have a product(s) that will do this. For today's product, the OBiTALK to SIP/GV/PSTN gateway / bridging is exactly how we designed the product."
Clearly, the current (mis-)ordering of the code to prevent the use of Call Forwarding and Do Not Disturb in conjunction with InboundCallRoute processing on anything but the OBiTALK trunk is intentional. Apparently, Obihai did not intend for users to make full use of the InboundCallRoutes on the SP1, SP2, and LINE Port trunks in the OBi100/OBi110 products.
Everton:
Now I get it!! They do not want to provide ALL possible features in the current OBi devices. They want to be able to sell a second generation OBi with additional features and possibly a third generation device with another set of features. I thoroughly understand their motivation, since petty much all product manufacturers do the same thing. I wish the source code was available so that third party hacking community could develop these features without the Obihai involvement. Is there such a thing as a reverse engineering the firmware?
Stewart:
Quote from: smart4x4pro on October 15, 2011, 01:43:13 pm
{(222333444):SP1(1333444555)},{SP1(16667778888)}
Sorry, I did not realize that you were using GV to forward to your DO mobile. Assuming that you are paying GV $0.11/min. and have heavy usage, you may want to consider an alternative. This could be set up as SP2 in your OBi or (if it's already in use for another provider) as a Gateway. Charges are rounded to next minute except as noted. Quality ratings are my personal opinion.
Easyvoip: $0.05/min. + $0.039 connect fee, not the best quality nor most reliable, but many find it adequate. Probably won't pass caller ID.
Voxbeam: $0.0776/min., billed only for actual seconds connected. Excellent quality and support, but $50 minimum top-up and authentication by IP address only. Small credit given at startup for testing.
Callcentric: $0.0847/min. Excellent quality and support, but may not pass caller ID correctly.
Localphone: $0.089/min. Good quality and support. Probably passes caller ID without leading 1. Small credit given at startup for testing.
It may also be possible to forward to your DO mobile for free or nearly free, by using your Vonage account. Unfortunately, I believe that you would need to send the destination number to Vonage by DTMF, which the OBi cannot do by itself, so another intermediate provider would be needed.
Ostracus:
Quote from: Everton on October 15, 2011, 02:47:03 pm
Now I get it!! They do not want to provide ALL possible features in the current OBi devices. They want to be able to sell a second generation OBi with additional features and possibly a third generation device with another set of features. I thoroughly understand their motivation, since petty much all product manufacturers do the same thing. I wish the source code was available so that third party hacking community could develop these features without the Obihai involvement. Is there such a thing as a reverse engineering the firmware?
Possible, and I can see as well why Obihai is doing what they are, after all they really only have an inexpensive piece of hardware (them and us) to sell. No services or support to speak of to sell to others. I still think they should go for the business market with their much higher requirements. Maybe expand upon the "cheap PBX in a box" theme? They can do for hardware what Asterisk did for software?
smart4x4pro:
Quote from: Stewart on October 15, 2011, 03:50:20 pm
Quote from: smart4x4pro on October 15, 2011, 01:43:13 pm
{(222333444):SP1(1333444555)},{SP1(16667778888)}
Sorry, I did not realize that you were using GV to forward to your DO mobile. Assuming that you are paying GV $0.11/min. and have heavy usage, you may want to consider an alternative. This could be set up as SP2 in your OBi or (if it's already in use for another provider) as a Gateway. Charges are rounded to next minute except as noted. Quality ratings are my personal opinion.
Easyvoip: $0.05/min. + $0.039 connect fee, not the best quality nor most reliable, but many find it adequate. Probably won't pass caller ID.
Voxbeam: $0.0776/min., billed only for actual seconds connected. Excellent quality and support, but $50 minimum top-up and authentication by IP address only. Small credit given at startup for testing.
Callcentric: $0.0847/min. Excellent quality and support, but may not pass caller ID correctly.
Localphone: $0.089/min. Good quality and support. Probably passes caller ID without leading 1. Small credit given at startup for testing.
It may also be possible to forward to your DO mobile for free or nearly free, by using your Vonage account. Unfortunately, I believe that you would need to send the destination number to Vonage by DTMF, which the OBi cannot do by itself, so another intermediate provider would be needed.
My Setup is One of a kind I have a database of clients that want always to speak to me.
I have a assistant that only picks up the phone when I cant, prior me notifying her.
PSTN Land Line "Comapny X" I also have a Blackberry from company X and they let me call for free to the office.
Office I have a OBi with GV and my GV is a extension for a Vonage service that a client assigned me and I pay $9.99 for the extension witch has the same benefits of the main line the whole World for free. Since I need to receive the calls for this client the main number of Vonage is forwarded to where I want.
Here is my setup If you call my office the call is routed to the Main Vonage and It Rings on my iPhone and Blackberry at the same time.
If I call with my Blackberry to the office I can call any where for free, the Vonage extension lets me do that.
If I travel I forward the Vonage anywhere I am and still recieve the calls and with the OBi I can call any where for free from almost anywhere.
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