Do I need a 'dry-loop' or not???

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Robert.Thompson:
Hello:

Presently I have Fibe 25 and a Bell telephone line but I want to scrap the telephone line and use my cordless phone on my OBi using VoIP.ms

I do not use, nor need, any of the telephone jacks in my house except the one jack where my DSL is plug in on.

Does this mean that I must get a 'dry-loop'?

Thanks,

Rob.

RonR:
Quote from: Robert.Thompson on February 13, 2012, 01:39:14 pm

Does this mean that I must get a 'dry-loop'?


Dry-loop does not refer to the telephone jacks in your house.  It refers to DSL service with no accompanying telephone service.  It still comes in on the same outside line from the telephone company as regular telephone service.  How you get it wired from the outside of the house to a DSL modem inside your house is up to you.

Robert.Thompson:
Quote from: RonR on February 13, 2012, 01:45:05 pm

Quote from: Robert.Thompson on February 13, 2012, 01:39:14 pm

Does this mean that I must get a 'dry-loop'?


Dry-loop does not refer to the telephone jacks in your house.  It refers to DSL service with no accompanying telephone service.  It still comes in on the same outside line from the telephone company as regular telephone service.  How you get it wired from the outside of the house to a DSL modem inside your house is up to you.



Ron, thanks for clearing that up.

Rob.

Rick:
Quote from: RonR on February 13, 2012, 01:45:05 pm

Quote from: Robert.Thompson on February 13, 2012, 01:39:14 pm

Does this mean that I must get a 'dry-loop'?


Dry-loop does not refer to the telephone jacks in your house.  It refers to DSL service with no accompanying telephone service.  It still comes in on the same outside line from the telephone company as regular telephone service.  How you get it wired from the outside of the house to a DSL modem inside your house is up to you.



Of utmost importance is to ensure that your phone company have the DSL service setup separately BEFORE you cancel your POTS line, otherwise your DSL service goes dead...

To expand on Ron's answer, which is right on the money, most phone lines have 4 wires, and use only 2 of them, red and green.  The easy steps to make your DSL outlet only work for DSL, and have all the other outlets work with the OBi, are:

1) Go to where the outside phone line hooks to your house wiring.  Connect the incoming red wire to your house yellow wire.  Connect the incoming green wire to your house black wire.  Disconnect the incoming red and green house wires so they are not connected to anything, and wrap the two ends separately in electrical tape so they don't ground out or touch any other wires.  This leaves only the yellow and black wires in your house energized.

2) At the DSL outlet in the house, connect the red jack wire to the yellow wire coming from the wall, and the green jack wire to the black wire coming from the wall.  Plug in your DSL modem to this outlet.  

3) Plug your OBi into any other house phone jack (the Phone port, not the Line port), and assuming you connected it to the internet  ;) all your phones will work fine.  

Robert.Thompson:
Quote from: Rick on February 13, 2012, 01:59:32 pm


Of utmost importance is to ensure that your phone company have the DSL service setup separately BEFORE you cancel your POTS line, otherwise your DSL service goes dead...

To expand on Ron's answer, which is right on the money, most phone lines have 4 wires, and use only 2 of them, red and green.  The easy steps to make your DSL outlet only work for DSL, and have all the other outlets work with the OBi, are:

1) Go to where the outside phone line hooks to your house wiring.  Connect the incoming red wire to your house yellow wire.  Connect the incoming green wire to your house black wire.  Disconnect the incoming red and green house wires so they are not connected to anything, and wrap the two ends separately in electrical tape so they don't ground out or touch any other wires.  This leaves only the yellow and black wires in your house energized.

2) At the DSL outlet in the house, connect the red jack wire to the yellow wire coming from the wall, and the green jack wire to the black wire coming from the wall.  Plug in your DSL modem to this outlet.  

3) Plug your OBi into any other house phone jack (the Phone port, not the Line port), and assuming you connected it to the internet  ;) all your phones will work fine.  



Thanks for the great post Rick! :)  (Do you live in Montreal? - just kidding!)

Regarding #1, #2 & #3, is that what Bell does when I ask them to create a 'dry-loop', or, is it something that I should do?

When I call Bell, do I actually use the term 'dry-loop' or do I just say something like 'Please setup my DSL separately from my phone line as I plan to cancel my phone service and use VOIP.'

Thanks for your patience,

Rob.


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