911 Calls

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jimates:
If one of the Obi's is a 110 you can connect the second Obi's phone port to the Obi110's line port. This will ring the  phone(s) connected to the Obi110 for all calls coming in on both devices.

To access the services on the second Obi you would press # on the phone handset. Since the Obi110's default for 911 is the line port, 911 calls would go out on the second Obi using whatever service is set as default.

As Stewart pointed out, concurrent calls are not possible with this setup.

You can, but I do not recommend, daisy chain more than two devices.

I have a Uniden 6 handset phone system on one Obi, and 2 with single handsets on each of the other 2. The handsets can be associated with multiple bases but only a max of 6 handsets associated per base. So even with multiple bases I could only have max. 6 handsets associated with each one at any one time.

Example:
Uniden base #1 - 6 handsets
Uniden base #2 - 3 handsets + 3 handsets from base #1
Uniden base #3 - 3 handsets + remaining 3 handsets from Base #1

You manually choose which base you want to connect to. Handsets only connect to one base at a time so it will receive or place calls on which ever base was last selected by the user.

The new Uniden systems allow 12 handsets (older handsets not compatible with new systems).

For a concurrent calling setup you could have 2 Obi's with 2 phone bases. Associate all 6 handsets with both bases but select base #1 for use. Set the second Obi to fork all calls to the first Obi. Incoming calls on both Obi's will ring all phones. When the phones are in use they will display "Line in Use" and you can select the other base and place your call. There are many variations that can be used to set something like this up, and if you use SIP services on the second Obi that allow you to set the outgoing caller id, all outgoing calls can carry the same caller id number.

Rick:
Quote from: MichiganTelephone on March 14, 2012, 11:56:03 pm

Quote from: pigpile on February 26, 2012, 05:40:27 pm

is this a forum or a lecture hall?


THANK YOU!!!  There are some people on this forum that really need to stop trying to impose their beliefs and values on others.  Not everyone thinks that "being safe" should be a top priority in life.  We're all going to die someday, and to be honest I'd rather do it BEFORE I'm so old and feeble that I hate every second of my continued existence on this planet.

It's like the people who try to sell alarm systems.  "Aren't you worried that... blah blah blah (this or that bad thing might happen)."  No, I'm not.  No, additional safety is not worth an extra so many cents (or dollars) a day to me.  There are plenty of people who spend half their lives worrying about bad things that might happen to them, and if that's the way they want to live it's their choice, but I REALLY wish they'd stop trying to push all their fears onto the rest of us.  It's okay to ask how to get a certain grade of 911 service if that's what YOU want, but it's NOT okay to lecture others that they should make the same choice you have.

(I'm not saying that people should have total disregard for safety, but there is a happy medium in there somewhere.  I'm just waiting for the day the "safety nannies" get every sport banned because sports are inherently unsafe.  And I don't just mean contact sports like football - people have been killed while playing just about every sport there is, either due to slips and falls, or getting beaned in the head with a ball or other object.  Some people won't be happy until we all live in padded rubber rooms and eat nothing but bland vegetables).


I don't know how you can equate E911 services with safety nannies, wearing helmets on motorcyles, or similar.  Even alarm systems.  I do agree that lecturing should not be done on these forums, but informing those unfamiliar with the situation, and possible consequences, should be done IMHO.  I didn't get my alarm system monitored to be safer.  Someone breaking into my home and hearing the alarm has no idea if it's monitored or not, so they likely make a quick escape because they don't know.  Monitoring of smoke/CO isn't really safer (unless I'm overcome and not able to hear the alarm).  Monitoring allows me to save money on my insurance, resulting in a net saving (Insurance savings is > than monitoring costs), so I make a profit AND know that when I'm not home the house is "being watched".  E911 really impacts two things - 1) the caller is not able to speak and 2) the caller doesn't know the physical address or the operator doesn't understand the physical address or types it in wrong.  E911 eliminates those issues for $1.50 a month. 

Just a thought, maybe you should have a liability waiver for all visitors to your home.

"Warning - if you have to call 911 while in my home, the 911 operator will not receive location data automatically which they then incorporate into a mapping service to most efficiently dispatch emergency services.  Therefore, it's possible that if you, as a guest in my home, cannot provide the correct address, or the dispatcher misunderstands the address that you do provide, that emergency services may be delayed in their response, and possibly may adversely effect your health and well-being.  Your signature on this form releases me, and my estate, from all liability if your health and well-being is adversely effected".   ;)

MichiganTelephone:
Quote from: Rick on March 15, 2012, 07:12:30 am

Just a thought, maybe you should have a liability waiver for all visitors to your home.

"Warning - if you have to call 911 while in my home, the 911 operator will not receive location data automatically which they then incorporate into a mapping service to most efficiently dispatch emergency services.  Therefore, it's possible that if you, as a guest in my home, cannot provide the correct address, or the dispatcher misunderstands the address that you do provide, that emergency services may be delayed in their response, and possibly may adversely effect your health and well-being.  Your signature on this form releases me, and my estate, from all liability if your health and well-being is adversely effected".   ;)


Just a thought, maybe flying unicorns should land on my lawn and fart gold coins.

THAT'S as likely to happen as what you suggested.

Here's another thought:  Maybe you should stay home, in your nice monitored home with the alarm system, and not ever go visit anyone else.  Because, you know, maybe the person you're visiting is like most people and hardly gives a thought to safety unless they are standing next to the edge of a cliff or something.  If people like you would stay home, the rest of us wouldn't need to worry that you might try to use our phones.

Or better yet, you could bring your own cell phone, which will always have 911 access.

Before we get too carried away here, let me explain my objection to this whole e911 business.  Basically, I see it as a money grab by the incumbent phone companies.  They soak local governments for the 911 trunks (and in some cases the equipment) and then they turn around and soak local phone users.  But in my opinion, that's an unfair distribution of the costs, because it puts the brunt of the expense on phone users.  In the old days, at least there was usually only one change per household but nowadays with both parents plus the kids carrying cell phones, and maybe a landline or commercial VoIP service, they may get soaked for the 911 charge multiple times.  Meanwhile the homeless guy on the street pays nothing.

But here's the problem, e911 benefits EVERYONE.  So really, it should be funded in the same way that public sidewalks or bike paths are funded, which is to say, everyone able to pay should contribute their fair share, and not a penny more.  If someone gets into a car accident outside your home and you call 911, they get the benefit whether they have ever paid a dime toward 911 funding or not.  If police and fire departments can be funded from taxes, why not e911?  As a bonus, government would have more incentive to make the phone companies justify their costs, instead of just letting them claim they need to charge every customer so much per line.  The real inequity is where you have a factory or store with maybe 25 employees or more, but they only have one incoming phone line so they pay one e911 charge, yet the family of five that is barely scraping by might be paying five or six e911 charges.  So when I hear preachy people try to convince people that they simply MUST have e911, I always wonder in the back of my mind if they aren't telephone company shills (or stockholders) trying to fatten their own wallets.  I realize not every e911 proponent has a financial stake in getting people to pay more and more for the service, but that's the point, we don't know what motivates people to stick their nose in other people's business, and very often that reason is in some way self-serving.

jimates:
Not that I was concerned, but I did bring up what I thought would be a big "safety concern" for those people that are 911 fanatics. My concern was dismissed as unimportant and of no concern by anyone else.

Obi's speed dial process will interfere with calling any number, including 911. If you delay while dialing 911 the Obi will dial the number stored in the corresponding speed dial location. If there is no number in that speed dial location the Obi will return "there is no call route available ......).
I think you should have to press # or * before the Obi will process the speed dial.

So make sure you are not injured or choking on smoke so bad that you can't dial the 3 digits without a 2 second delay. But look at the bright side, maybe whoever answers from speed dialing 9 knows your address and can call 911 for you.

RonR:
Quote from: jimates on March 15, 2012, 01:15:08 pm

Not that I was concerned, but I did bring up what I thought would be a big "safety concern" for those people that are 911 fanatics. My concern was dismissed as unimportant and of no concern by anyone else.

Obi's speed dial process will interfere with calling any number, including 911. If you delay while dialing 911 the Obi will dial the number stored in the corresponding speed dial location. If there is no number in that speed dial location the Obi will return "there is no call route available ......).


Actually, your concerns were addressed by Obihai with a revised Speed Dial rule in the PHONE Port DigitMap:

|[1-9]S9|[1-9][0-9]S9|

You now have 9 seconds after dialing 1 or 2 digits before the Speed Dial activates (if you don't terminate your dialing with a #).

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