Obihai is deleting unwanted topics
QBZappy:
I started the thread that was removed.
It was an honest technical question on how the units were updated despite settings to prevent it. I think it is the first time one of my posts has been removed. Removing valid questions of a technical nature "does not help the cause" of selling the units. Next we will be asking ourselves if they have the ability to listen/record our conversations??? OBihai, how you handle this issue of trust can have a direct impact on your future sales. You are giving us the impression that there is a dark side to operating the OBi ATA. I don't have this concern with my other equipment providers. Imagine if you suspected your router manufacturer to keep track of what sites you are visiting.
Now that this topic has been tagged, I don't expect this post to last.
Dan_voip:
Quote from: jimates on May 09, 2012, 08:35:13 pm
Quote from: crazyk4952 on May 09, 2012, 07:48:12 pm
OBi you have lost my trust. Why did you build a backdoor into your product? And why are you trying to hide that fact?
We've always known it was there.
How did you know, it's in the manual, on their web site somewhere, an Obihai public announcement?
With all update, provisioning and Obitalk disabled are they still able to access the device?
If that's true it's totally wrong.
Obihai can you comment on that or if was posted somewhere can you provide a link please?
Felix:
Quote from: Dan_voip on May 10, 2012, 02:20:26 pm
Obihai can you comment on that or if was posted somewhere can you provide a link please?
OBi silence on this topic is deafening! As they said in Nixon years - it's not the mischief that gets you; it's the cover-up!
MichiganTelephone:
I just want to know, do those who claim to have received the update but think they shouldn't have, have all of the following settings as shown:
System Management | Auto Provisioning | Auto Firmware Update: Method: Disabled
System Management | Auto Provisioning | ITSP Provisioning: Method: Disabled
System Management | Auto Provisioning | OBiTALK Provisioning: Method: Disabled
Voice Services | OBiTALK Service | Enable (Unchecked)
Especially check the last one because I'm being told that's the one that's important — you must have OBiTALK Service disabled or you may still get the updates!
ShermanObi:
Hi Everyone,
As most all of you are aware, an OBi device can make calls to other OBi devices and soft phones (running on smart phones, tablets and PCs) out-of-the-box. Customers use this capability to make calls to OBi devices to ring its attached phone or to bridge a call to a regular phone number -- using the OBi device as a VoIP gateway.
To maintain OBiTALK OBi-to-OBi calling functionality (and related features), Obihai may make configuration or software modifications to devices that use the OBiTALK Service. Otherwise, when there is a ‘service’ affecting issue, we may need to update its config or software. This is memorialized in the OBiTALK terms of service and this is what we did on Wednesday. There are no backdoors on Obihai products.
Service providers with whom we do business have access to additional provisioning capabilities that, depending on how they utilize the OBi device remote configuration process, can affect how the device behaves in relation to available OBiTALK-driven services. Just like individual owners of Obihai devices, service provider owners have 100% control over how the device operates.
By keeping OBiTALK Service and OBiTALK provisioning enabled, the following services are available today (more will be available in the future):
OBi-to-OBi Calling Including: Calling to/from your OBi to/from the OBiON for iPhone or Android and OBiApp for PC
OBi-to-OBi-to-SIP or Google Voice Service Calling (and vice-versa)OBiTALK Device Configuration Including Configuration of SIP and Google Voice Service(s)
Emergency Calling Service Set-Up
Convenient Setting Time-Zone, Attendant PIN, etc.
OBiTALK Circle of Trust Invites / AcceptanceSpeed Dial Configuration Across All Your OBi Devices & Soft PhoneAssignment of Trusted Callers' Phone Numbers for Access to the OBi Attendant for Service BridgingOBi Expert Cloud Based Configuration By the way: We are Fixing the Config Import Function
Direct Support from Obihai via e-mail or Phone
As for deleting topics (and posts) on the OBiTALK forum, we do this very rarely, but topics (or individual posts) are deleted when they contain falsehoods and/or inaccurate information that would be misleading and unproductive to the OBi user community. We want the forum to be place where a user can go to learn about how to use an OBi product without fear they will receive false information that would hinder their ability to use the product. QBZappy is one of the forum's top contributors and a valuable, knowledgeable asset to the community. QBZappy's topic-creating post was not the offending one, but there were several other posts that made there, making that particular thread worthless to the community. So we deleted it.
Thank you,
Sherman
sherman@obihai.com
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