Newbie Setup Help OBI202
Lavarock7:
Quote from: CoalMinerRetired on January 07, 2013, 05:09:36 pm
> Plug a second 4 line wire from the OBI202 Phone 2 to Line 3/4 on the RCA 4 line set.
No. The phone cord from Phone 1 also carries the signals for Phone 2. With an Obi202, you still have only two physical, analog phone phone lines. Even with what I mentioned above, which is nothing more than a way to use one 'phone cord' instead of two.
> After that How do I get SP2 to go out the 2 line of Phone 1 and get sp4 to go out the second line of phone 2 on the OBI.
The normal configuration. Discussed at length on here, done via the ObiTalk portal, etc., etc.
> Am I making any sense?
Based on the above you're still missing a few points. See reply #8 above.
I would explain it as such:
Telephones usually use just 2 wires (commonly a red and a green wire shown as pins 2 and 3), called line 1. Wall jacks and other devices often have another pair (black and yellow), called line 2 (pins 1 and 4).
If you have a 2-line phone, both pairs of wires would be used in a single connector and 4 wire cord. Single line phones ignore pins 1 and 4.
So the Obi devices supply phone line 1 on pins 2 & 3 of port 1 and line 2 on pins 1 & 4 of the same port.
Obi supplies line 2 on pins 2 & 3 of port 2.
In the above picture, the Obi Line port #1 would be an rj-14 and line port 2 would be an rj-11.
Felix:
Quote from: vich on January 09, 2013, 11:32:03 am
Thanks ianobi,
I tried that with the 2 lines I have set up currently. I could call out on line 1 connect to a phone, Press Flash and call out to another number. Put those on hold and went to line 2 and could do the same thing.
I worry about using the flash because we may connect the calls an the calls are usally negotiations where I am the middle man.
Thus when I heard Line1 & 2 could come out of the Phone 1 jack. I wondered could I get 3 &4 to come out the Phone 2 jack. Then we can use hold instead of flash. (less chance of conferencing the 2 callers).
I plan on adding another person to help me so thus the other reason for wanting 4 lines. If they get a call in, they can put on hold and do a quick call out and check on the other line. The calls often involved going back and forth negotiating so I want to make sure I don't actually end up with both parties on the line on the same time. Again hence the reason for 4 lines.
Does that make since?
Thanks for the your time and help.
Unfortunately, not to me... no.
It seems that your goal is to use 4 lines of your 4-line phone; in other words, you have a solution and are searching for the problem. Sorry for being so blunt. I suggest you think about the problem you are trying to solve.
So, let's go back to your answers.
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My ultimate short term goal is to add 2 more GV numbers.
OK, you can do it now. You have two providers set up; OBi202 allows four...
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I have them set so if the main number is busy it forwards to the next phone (PH#)
What do you mean by "main number is busy"? If the caller receives "busy signal", then the call didn't reach your home, and you can't forward it anywhere. Most SIP providers allow fallback number to be set on their website - I don't think Google Voice has this capability. But I am almost sure that you mean something else!
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I plan to have another person helping me who may get a call and like me put the person on. Hold and call another party to check on availability or status of what we are doing for the first caller.
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So, you need to have two receivers (whether those are two independent phones, or two stations of two-line phone is completely irrelevant). Again, you never mentioned that you actually have two receivers - and I don't want to make assumptions. Everything else (holding, conferencing, transferring) can easily be done with your current equipment.
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I know I ultimately have to get some IP phones but I thought I read something that made me thing I could get all 4 lines going outbthrough the phone 1 & 2 port so I could have all 4 lines on my 4 line analog phone
I love IP phones; mainly for voice quality - but nothing that you described tells me that you have to get IP phones. I have no idea what the rest of the sentence (after 'but') means
CoalMinerRetired:
Quote from: Lavarock7 on January 09, 2013, 11:34:39 am
If you have a 2-line phone, both pairs of wires would be used in a single connector and 4 wire cord. Single line phones ignore pins 1 and 4.
So the Obi devices supply phone line 1 on pins 2 & 3 of port 1 and line 2 on pins 1 & 4 of the same port.
Obi supplies line 2 on pins 2 & 3 of port 2.
In the above picture, the Obi Line port #1 would be an rj-14 and line port 2 would be an rj-11.
Yes, exactly.
vich:
I am pretty sure I have confused everyone.
My set up now is a RJ14 from Obitalk Phone1 to the Line1/2 of the Analog phone. Both lines work perfectly.
as for the busy part I shouldn't have thrown that in at this time. I just Configured obitalk to on line 1 busy (ph1) roll it over to (ph2). But let's not get this side tracked with that
What I was hoping to be able to use all four SP lines with GVoice I've set up in Obitalk. And has hoping i could get SP1 & 2 to come out of phone port 1 and SP3 & 4 out of phone port 2. then on the phone I would have
SP1 => Line 1
SP2 => Line 2
SP3 => Line 3
SP4 => Line 4
But as I understand it I can't do that. All I can get is SP 1 & 2 out of the phone ports on the OBITalk. CoalMinerRetired told me that last night.
So to recap the only way I can use SIP 3 & 4 is either dialing **3 or **4 on line 1 or 2 or get an IP phone. Correct?
But then I got another reply that made me think maybe it is possible.
Sorry if this is taking so long, I do appreciate the help very much.
Felix:
I promise, this is the last time I'll hector you... If I still can't understand what you are saying - I'll leave you alone.
Try to explain as if you are explaining to your 70-year old aunt.
Quote from: vich on January 09, 2013, 02:20:15 pm
My set up now is a RJ14 from Obitalk Phone1 to the Line1/2 of the Analog phone. Both lines work perfectly.
I don't know what RJ14 stands for... I assume it's some kind of wire. And what is definition of "perfectly" - can you explain in layman terms?
Quote from: vich on January 09, 2013, 02:20:15 pm
What I was hoping to be able to use all four SP lines with GVoice I've set up in Obitalk.
So - what's stopping you?
Quote from: vich on January 09, 2013, 02:20:15 pm
And has hoping i could get SP1 & 2 to come out of phone port 1 and SP3 & 4 out of phone port 2. then on the phone I would have
SP1 => Line 1
SP2 => Line 2
SP3 => Line 3
SP4 => Line 4
Again - explain in layman terms - what do you want to happen? Seriously - stop thinking about ports, and start thinking about real life scenarios. John calls this number... Sally calls that number when I am on line with John, etc.
Quote from: vich on January 09, 2013, 02:20:15 pm
So to recap the only way I can use SIP 3 & 4 is either dialing **3 or **4 on line 1 or 2 or get an IP phone. Correct?
I don't think it's a correct statement; I guess when you say "use" you mean "call out"; and when you say "SIP 3 & 4" you really mean your upcoming GV numbers (GV is alternative to SIP; not SIP)
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