Google Sets the Date for the End of XMPP with Google Voice
drgeoff:
Quote from: 7Priest7 on November 19, 2013, 01:02:42 pm
Quote from: Ostracus on November 19, 2013, 06:03:02 am
Oh I wouldn't say that. Remember this is the team that helped launch the VoIP revolution. I rather doubt Obihas continued existence rests on if Google sneezes or not.
ObiHai has not done anything in way of revolution.
I bought this on 02/01/2011
I used callcentric back then in 2011.
Void the ability to use google voice nobody will buy obihai devices over devices from more reputable companies like linksys.
Do you realise that the Linksys ATAs (and the Sipura ones before that) were designed by the same engineers who more lately founded Obihai? That is the reason for the "this is the team that helped launch the VoIP revolution" statement.
SteveInWA:
"Void the ability to use google voice nobody will buy obihai devices over devices from more reputable companies like linksys."
Linksys doesn't exist anymore. History lesson (as already referenced by Ostracus): The folks now at Obihai developed the Sipura products. <and there are some parallel details with regard to Cisco's ATA-186, that I can't recall>. Linksys bought Sipura, and didn't innovate; they just kept selling the same products with minor variations (PAP and SPA product lines). Then, Cisco made a feeble attempt to get into the consumer business by purchasing Linksys (not just the ATA business, but the whole company). They merged in their own technology and enterprise product lines, including SIP phones. After deciding to return to their core competency as an enterprise networking vendor, they recently sold the Linksys business to Belkin. The PAP and SPA ATA products haven't been manufactured, nor updated in several years -- they've been discontinued.
When it comes to the ATA market, the closest thing to a "latest generation successor to the PAP and SPA" products, are Obihai's line. Otherwise, you're talking about clones from Grandstream or a couple of other vendors that sell to the telco provider market.
Whether or not the ATA hardware market survives over the near-term future is related less to Google Voice/Chat/Hangouts than it is to the overall trends in consumer telephony: more mobile, less land line, and for land line, dominance by the broadband providers, with integrated modem/router/phone hardware boxes.
carl:
Quote from: SteveInWA on November 19, 2013, 07:08:23 pm
When it comes to the ATA market, the closest thing to a "latest generation successor to the PAP and SPA" products, are Obihai's line. Otherwise, you're talking about clones from Grandstream or a couple of other vendors that sell to the telco provider market.
Whether or not the ATA hardware market survives over the near-term future is related less to Google Voice/Chat/Hangouts than it is to the overall trends in consumer telephony: more mobile, less land line, and for land line, dominance by the broadband providers, with integrated modem/router/phone hardware boxes.
I have to agree with that.
7Priest7:
Quote from: SteveInWA on November 19, 2013, 07:08:23 pm
Whether or not the ATA hardware market survives over the near-term future is related less to Google Voice/Chat/Hangouts than it is to the overall trends in consumer telephony: more mobile, less land line, and for land line, dominance by the broadband providers, with integrated modem/router/phone hardware boxes.
Wrong.
Free is better than any other price.
Google Voice at the moment is the only voip provider that is free.
The motivation to get ATA devices will be significantly less with the complex fee structures and hidden surcharges of current other SIP providers.
Like I said before, I had callcentric in 2011...
SOOO many hidden fees...
Nobody use callcentric, trust me I know from experience.
EDIT: My original desire remains true regardless of our differing opinions.
I still would like obihai to make the wise decision to adapt their technology when the time comes.
This debate is pointless... Neither of our opinions will be altered, let it die.
Ansextra:
Free is better than any other price BUT when you pay for something you have more control. Free services can change at any arbitrary moment. When you pay you have a contract. I am actually preferring my new VOIPo account to my GV account for my purposes. I don't mind paying to get what I want and need when it comes to phone service. As a teleworker phone service is extremely important to me.
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