Google Sets the Date for the End of XMPP with Google Voice
SteveInWA:
Quote from: gderf on January 01, 2014, 08:30:23 pm
I have a feeling that if OBi were to re-engineer their hardware to work with GV post May 15, 2014 Google would sue them, figure out how to cripple the fix or both.
These new posts remind me of the Glenn Close death scene in "Fatal Attraction". Like DrJay said, there never WAS any sort of partnership or legal agreement. XMPP support is going to end on 5/15, and that's all there is to it...no cat-and-mouse or whack-a-mole games, and no lawsuits. Now, one post fantasizing about a lawsuit spawns more speculation and thrashing. Work through your stages of grieving and get on with it, just like Obihai is doing:
Take a look at Obihai's new blog post, referenced above. They're moving on with a positive approach to offering alternatives.
drgeoff:
I suspect that, like most business decisions, the $$$$ is a big factor.
For Google, anyone using their service but not looking at a screen, isn't a potential revenue source (via advertising).
(There is a parallel with standalone internet radios. More and more stations can only be heard through a web browser.)
For Obihai, apart from Obiplus, their current business model for the end-user market is just the one-off sale of the hardware device. But with the $40 a year service some part of that, even if only a few $ per year, will come to Obihai year in year out with little if any extra effort on their part.
sdb-:
Quote from: dmd1 on December 29, 2013, 10:25:57 am
...get a paid DID for incoming calls so I can forward my GV number to this new number. Is this a good assumption? Other than paying for the number do I still get free incoming calls this way? Companies such as Callcentric and Anveo charge incoming calls according to their websites.
For outgoing calls, Localphone has the best rate so it's my choice.
It seems like a reasonable assumption, but there is no guarantee.
Anveo used to offer 40 minutes per month (or was it per day?) with their cheap DID, not sure if they still do. I have a 'personal unlimited' with them, which includes unlimited incoming.
Localphone seems to indicate that incoming calls are free with their DID. Their website is not clear on the cost or ability of in-porting numbers.
I am currently using Anveo for incoming + E911 and localphone for outgoing. Sure beats my old CenturyLink landline. If I find I am fairly consistently using a significant amount of outgoing minutes I will subscribe to a plan at localphone to reduce my per-minute cost.
mo832:
Quote from: giqcass on January 01, 2014, 11:25:37 pm
Quote from: gderf on January 01, 2014, 08:30:23 pm
I have a feeling that if OBi were to re-engineer their hardware to work with GV post May 15, 2014 Google would sue them, figure out how to cripple the fix or both.
Why hasn't Google sued Sipsorcery? They have the longest running working solution. It will continue to work after XMPP is cut off. It's all about HOW things are done. If you include a PSTN termination point in the process Google does not care. ObiHai could make it work and stay on Googles good side if they followed the Sipsorcery model.
What he said. :)
I still feel like obi could create a solution if they wanted to, that would mimic as close as possible the way the system works today. Again, if it involved a new piece of hardware, or even an additional charge for a firmware modification, it would still be attractive. Just so long as we could escape the additional complications of going to a new registration with another provider and also having to figure metered service and separate incoming/outgoing etc. All that complexity makes it unappealing for many people. What Obi had going for it was the out-of-box simplicity for the standard user.
Having said that, can someone explain how Sipsorcery works? If they have "the longest running working solution", I would like to investigate that. Is it a genuine alternative to Obi /GV after May 15 ?
dmd1:
It seems like a reasonable assumption, but there is no guarantee.
Anveo used to offer 40 minutes per month (or was it per day?) with their cheap DID, not sure if they still do. I have a 'personal unlimited' with them, which includes unlimited incoming.
Localphone seems to indicate that incoming calls are free with their DID. Their website is not clear on the cost or ability of in-porting numbers.
I am currently using Anveo for incoming + E911 and localphone for outgoing. Sure beats my old CenturyLink landline. If I find I am fairly consistently using a significant amount of outgoing minutes I will subscribe to a plan at localphone to reduce my per-minute cost.
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This is what I plan on doing in the near future. Do you forward your GV number to Anveo or let incoming calls go straight to Anveo number? How is call quality?
Thanks.
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