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drgeoff:
Quote from: mo832 on January 02, 2014, 09:51:10 am
Having said that, can someone explain how Sipsorcery works? If they have "the longest running working solution", I would like to investigate that. Is it a genuine alternative to Obi /GV after May 15 ?
Don't forget that if you don't already have a subscription, it is $69 per year.
mo832:
I've read several posts in this thread, starting from the earliest pages and continuing throughout from different users, mentioning Anveo and "free". They are confusing, so I'm hoping for some clarity:
If you sign up for the personal unlimited incoming account WITHOUT the DID number (use IPKall or something),
1. is it totally free? No 911 fee or admin charges or anything?
2. Do they need payment info or credit card to register for the free incoming?
3. Do you need to tell them you won't use in USA to avoid fees like Callcentric does?
4. Will it pass the CNAM info to the OBi if you use GV>ipkall>Anveo>Obi ?
5. Is it reliable or is it still skipping many calls from ringing?
sdb-:
1) What you call a "personal unlimited account" IS a DID rate plan, not an account. A "personal unlimited" DID costs $2/month, "business unlimited" DID is $4/month. If you don't want a DID, do not sign up for it. Your account may have none, one or many DIDs and those DIDs may be in any of the DID rate plans.
E911 is associated with outgoing calls, not incoming. It has nothing to do with any DID including a "personal unlimited" DID.
Your Anveo account will have a subscription plan/package associated with it to add or enable features such as enhanced call flow processing or additional inbox storage. The lowest subscription level is free, then Starter is $6.55/month, etc.
2) Anveo does not know you are doing free incoming. Do not tell them. As far as they are concerned, you are a SIP account and will use SIP incoming. They allow two forms of SIP incoming, the free kind bypasses their call flow process. Or you can get a SIP address for incoming call flow, but I think you will pay usage charges for that.
3) As a U.S. resident I found (and maybe it applies to Canada residents as well) they will simply not allow you to make outgoing calls without E911. The website reminded me for the week or two until I signed up for E911. I don't know how long they would have let it go without me signing up.
4) it did for me. I've since switched my IPKall to point to Localphone. If you do not want E911, you might consider Localphone instead of Anveo.
5) I never noticed a reliability problem when calling my IPKall number. Sometimes GV has reliability problems.
mo832:
@sdb- Thank you so much for your explanations.
Since you mentioned localphone regarding e911 and suggested that as an alternative, is there a free option with localphone as well? It is very confusing to distinguish between the SIP number to receive VOIP calls and the DID number which can be obtained from the same SIP provider or another outside DID provider like IPkall.
In other words, can you use localphone with the #2 discussion above, and just have a SIP account without the 99c a month?
And if you use GV>IPKall>Localphone>Obi, with the full CNAM be displayed ?
sdb-:
Localphone has 'free' incoming SIP. It might require you to have a credit in your account, not sure. Definitely no 99c/month.
It costs nothing but a bit of time to sign up for a Localphone (or Anveo) account, verify your phone number, get an IPKall number and point it at your new SIP address. Best to try and see how it works for you.
Now that I think about it more, I think thru IPKall I may be only getting a limited CNAM (like City and State). It definitely happens some of the time. That may have also been true with Anveo. It is hard to tell... Most numbers are showing correct CNAM data on my phone, but as my panasonic phones look up CID in their phonebook, and I imported all the numbers from my and wife's cell phones, my phone may be the source of the full CNAM data.
GV->IPKall->Localphone->OBi is only used for calls from the Eastern side of my state while most of my incoming calls are via my Anveo personal unlimited DID. On that DID I enabled the Anveo CNAM lookup (at $0.009 per call). Anveo will look up first in my directory on their site, if not found then charge me for the CNAM lookup.
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