Google Sets the Date for the End of XMPP with Google Voice
carl:
Quote from: Rick on November 01, 2013, 04:42:17 am
I agree that this will kill OBi's retail business. I suspect they thought Google would start charging a small amount for the service versus dropping it.
It depends how they handle it. Right now, they cater largely to the GV folks and leave SIP providers for the hobbyist minority. If they make a 90 degree turn quickly, it could remain a retail success.
From my brief chat with them it seems that they are absolutely out from Google business and that they will not bother with hangouts, thus the May 14th is th last day indeed.
I will wait till February with any move.
gderf:
Quote from: azrobert on November 01, 2013, 10:07:12 am
This is how GV was originally designed to work and doesn't use XMPP. It was intended to work with a PSTN phone and the callback function, but you can use a SIP provider and a DID. I doubt this will change.
People with a PSTN line can call their GV number, get a prompt and then make a free long distance call. This probably will not change either.
Thanks for the explanation. I have today obtained a free DID from CallCentric and verified this works as described. If this and the free outbound calling via Google continues to work post May 15, 2014, I can live with the workaround.
DaveHuss:
As someone pointed out the "call google, enter the number you wish to call, and have google call you back" method of placing a call should hopefully still work. If that is the case then a call-centric/pay by the minute number is all you will need. To make dial your GV number less painful, program it as one of the speed dials. I haven't looked in the ObiHai's manual or done this yet (will when I get home) but you should be able to set a speed dial by picking up the phone and hitting:
*74 following by 1+your google voice number + 2-9 (to set which speed dial it'll be). Then to call your GV number just hit 2-9 (whichever you chose) followed by the # key.
To check a speed dial number you can hit *75 + 2-9.
So theoretically to place a call all you'd have to do is his 2# + dial the number you want, hang up, have google call you back and it'll only cost you a minute (a penny basically) no matter how long the phone call is (I assume <1 min calls are rounded up, if not it'll be even cheaper).
steveken:
Quote from: sdb- on November 01, 2013, 07:33:02 am
Read more carefully.
Get the free DID mentioned above. Configure your OBi. Forward your google voice number to the new DID. Done.
Nobody but you needs to know.
Now your incoming calls to GV get forwarded to the DID and then to your OBi. Free. And nobody needs to know.
Outgoing calls go thru the new service. Costs pennies a call. Or for the ultimate cheapskates like me, add another service like localphone for outgoing calls. $0.005/minute or various plans up to $5/month for 5000 minutes. That is nearly as cheap as GV for low usage, and still much cheaper than the PSTN.
Ok, so, basically, I just set up a "Free Phone Number" on the CallCentric site, follow the setup procedures for the Obi100 on the page http://www.callcentric.com/support/device/obihai/obi100, then go into the Google Voice settings and set up a new forward to number with the CallCentric number on it? Seems easy enough.
The only drawback is that since that would be a free incoming call only option, I would have to figure out something if someone wanted to use the phones for outgoing calls. That is where all the spoofing comes into play, I take it. Because if I set it up that way, I couldn't just pick up the phone and do the whole Google calling you back routine like DaveHuss just mentioned because I wouldn't have a way to call out to the Google Voice number to get it to do all the calling back.
Oh, well, I guess one could use the Hangouts app to do the outbound initiating call and then have it ring the CallCentric number configured in the Obi100. Is that right? Or would you not be able to do something like that with the Hangouts app because it is already the Google Voice number and would just be initiating the call from there? I guess I am still a tad confused on this part of the plan. Would that only work from within the Voice webpage on a computer?
carl:
Quote from: steveken on November 01, 2013, 11:56:25 am
The only drawback is that since that would be a free incoming call only option, I would have to figure out something if someone wanted to use the phones for outgoing calls. That is where all the spoofing comes into play, I take it. Because if I set it up that way, I couldn't just pick up the phone and do the whole Google calling you back routine like DaveHuss just mentioned because I wouldn't have a way to call out to the Google Voice number to get it to do all the calling back.
That's why you set up Localhone as a second provider next to callcentric on your Obi, and register all your numbers you have with them. You then set your desired number as Caller ID for your outgoing calls. You will pay the 0.5c/min. This way you ootbound calling will remain fully functional regardless whether you computer is on. off course, you can call out with Callcentric directly however that would be almost 2c/min.
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