Will GoogleVoice stop working on all deployed OBi devices after May 15?

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lhm.:
Voip.ms allows spoofing CID to shock your friends, as in WH, NSA & CIA. Just do not pretend to be them in the call or they will come after you.

  :-*

giqcass:
Quote from: carl on December 10, 2013, 07:13:31 pm

I would not call it spoofing. You can set any registered number( which has to be verified) as your caller ID, it cannot be just any number. So I can pick any of my Localphone DID's, my 2 GV numbers , My Callcentric number or my 2 cell phone numbers. That's it.

Call it whatever you want.  Each provider calls it something different.  Spoofing is a generally accepted term. Despite having a negative connotation it accurately describes what localphone is doing.  When a service sends caller ID for a number of which it is not the authoritative register the service is spoofing the caller ID. So if localphone sends your Google Voice number it is spoofing it.

sdb-:
It is not "spoofing" unless you are sending a caller id that does not reach back to you.

There is no direct tie or association between a CID which is an identifier for an incoming trunk, and an outgoing trunk.  That association has to be created by someone.  If you go to the phone company as a home or small business owner and rent a phone line, the phone company forms the association.  If your business grows and you need more incoming lines than outgoing (or the opposite) then the phone company no longer knows how you will be associating your lines, and so will have you designate the CID(s) to be used for your outgoing line(s).

Likewise a VOIP provider needs you to make that CID designation because they don't know how your lines are configured.  Therefore when you set your CID on an outgoing trunk it is not spoofing, but is merely creating the association which people expect to exist, but which does not naturally exist.

telecomm:
Quote from: giqcass on December 10, 2013, 03:28:36 pm

A lot of people will be moving to localphone for outgoing calls.  They start at 1/2 cent per minute pay as you go or 1/10 of a cent per minute if you buy a bucket of minutes each month and they will "spoof" your caller ID so it appears the call came from your Google Voice account.  Any service with caller ID "spoofing" will work.

The old Asterisk method will work as well but when Google changes something it can break in which case you must wait for an update.  It has worked pretty well for a long time but you never know.


Thanks, I got a free DID from IPKall today.  I tested it and my results are not that good.  Sometimes the call comes through, other times it does not.  I have the free IPKall and the free Callcentric DIDs setup so my GV number rings them via my Callcentric SIP, but still they only work part of the time.  I have tested seperatly, without GV (direct DID), and still the same unreliability.  Good thing about GV is at least the VM will go on and ask the caller to leave a message for those calls that never ring for me.
I wonder if going through Callcentric direct would provide more reliability?  To pay for a plan to include incoming and outgoing calls on a non free DID line.
I have this setup for my wife with her business.  She does not seem to think she is losing calls and all go to GV voice mail, but I wonder.  Her internet is via ATT UVerse, if that even matters, and mine is WOW.  I will have to go to her office and test, and if I find the same thing, switch to a more reliable method and just pay the 20 bucks or so a month.  Of course, I welcome all ideas.

SteveInWA:
Quote from: telecomm on December 11, 2013, 11:56:46 am

Thanks, I got a free DID from IPKall today.  I tested it and my results are not that good.  Sometimes the call comes through, other times it does not.  I have the free IPKall and the free Callcentric DIDs setup so my GV number rings them via my Callcentric SIP, but still they only work part of the time.  I have tested seperatly, without GV (direct DID), and still the same unreliability.  Good thing about GV is at least the VM will go on and ask the caller to leave a message for those calls that never ring for me.
I wonder if going through Callcentric direct would provide more reliability?  To pay for a plan to include incoming and outgoing calls on a non free DID line.
I have this setup for my wife with her business.  She does not seem to think she is losing calls and all go to GV voice mail, but I wonder.  Her internet is via ATT UVerse, if that even matters, and mine is WOW.  I will have to go to her office and test, and if I find the same thing, switch to a more reliable method and just pay the 20 bucks or so a month.  Of course, I welcome all ideas.


As of today, I would not recommend using either IPKall or Callcentric's free DID numbers as Google Voice forwarding destinations.  Google's carrier is experiencing problems connecting to these numbers, resulting in various symptoms, including incorrect or missing caller ID data, delays in connecting, or failure to connect.  I've escalated this issue to Google, but I am not optimistic it will be fixed in the near term.  Some Anveo users are experiencing the same problem.  From what we've seen so far, Callcentric's paid DIDs, (in other words, DIDs you select in your area code of choice, and pay a monthly fee to maintain) work fine as forwarding targets for GV.  Speculation (and only speculation at this time) is that the cause is the least-cost routing being used by GV's CLEC (carrier) to connect to the CLECs providing the free DIDs.  Because this routing can be different from one call to the next, some users' free DIDs seem to work sometimes, and sometimes not, and some users' DIDs always or never work. 

My own opinion as of today is that it is a waste of time to experiment further with swapping free DIDs until the CLECs resolve the issues.

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