Obihai Google Voice XMPP Solutions
simpleAnswers:
Quote from: swh2 on January 13, 2014, 09:23:11 am
..Come on t mobile act like the "un carrier" you claim to be and fix spam calls
I thought it was not allowed for marketeer to knowingly make spam/marketing calls to cell phones as it would cost the receiver money.
Usually its only if the user has filled out their cell phone as a home number somewhere and the marketeers got that. I never enter my cell as a home number anywhere. My 2cents ;D
giqcass:
Quote from: simpleAnswers on February 07, 2014, 03:43:14 am
Quote from: swh2 on January 13, 2014, 09:23:11 am
..Come on t mobile act like the "un carrier" you claim to be and fix spam calls
I thought it was not allowed for marketeer to knowingly make spam/marketing calls to cell phones as it would cost the receiver money.
Usually its only if the user has filled out their cell phone as a home number somewhere and the marketeers got that. I never enter my cell as a home number anywhere. My 2cents ;D
You are correct if you mean inside the United States. Many of these companies run operations in countries where they can not be prosecuted. The fact that there was no legal avenue to stop these people is the reason the FCC had a contest to find a solution. I usually put my cell phone numbers into the do not call list even though it is not supposed to be necessary. Another problem we run into these days is the fact most telephone numbers have been recycled.
SteveInWA:
Quote from: simpleAnswers on January 12, 2014, 08:18:17 am
I have been reading all the opinions on this issue on how to overcome the gv xmpp support ending and so far I have to say they have all been practically useless or just not useful answers. The solutions proposed sound so convoluted that I can't see them working very well.
I wholeheartedly agree with gderf's answers in this thread. The alternatives aren't convoluted at all, nor were they useless answers; the solutions work great, although they cost some money. As was already pointed out, you simply cannot continue to get something for nothing; it was an unauthorized use of Google Voice, never negotiated with Google, nor promised to be permanent by Obihai. Obihai never said they had partnered with Google to provide the service. They simply made the feature available for you to use.
You are simply upset that you are losing your free calling from Google. It's like the stages of grieving. You need to move from denial and anger to acceptance. Free, direct GV service via a box, be it black or cream-colored, is DEAD.
Seriously, this has been thoroughly run into the ground. Obihai has listed a good selection of SIP carriers. The market is very competitive, with low profit margin.
Quote from: simpleAnswers on January 12, 2014, 08:18:17 am
So my question is simple and I know there is an answer.
I have an Obi110 which is setup with my GV and I simply pickup a phone and dial. When I get a call my Obi rings and I answer, it is not plugged into a computer or connected via bluetooth etc.
Post May 2014, is there anyway I can still do this, using my GV and just a phone without having a computer always on? And No, I don't think having a bluetooth blah, connected to the phone is a solution. I don't care if the answer does not involve an Obi device. If they can't/won't fix their device, then maybe someone knows something else that does what we all paid for.
No. There is no answer, and no, nothing is broken. Google is simply closing the hole that allowed third-parties to use Chat for calling outside the Google ecosystem. You didn't pay a one-time fee for free telephone service. You bought and paid for a box -- an Analog Telephone Adapter that can connect to various internet telephone service providers. The main thing that differentiated it from all the other ATAs out there, was that it had a built-in XMPP Google Chat client. That XMPP Chat service is being shut down completely by Google. DEAD. You can be angry at Google if you like, but that attitude is useless and not helpful, not the answers provided so far.
If you do not want to pay some amount of money for convenient phone service via a box and a RJ11 analog phone jack and a phone, then make all your calls on a laptop or desktop computer, or on an Apple iOS device, or soon, on an Android device, using the replacement for Chat: Google Hangouts. Hangouts is where Google is investing their development funding, and it will continue to improve over time. Just this week, for example, Google announced a turnkey solution for video conferencing using Hangouts and Chromeboxes. That's the future, not being just another VoIP telephone company.
jimates:
@ simpleAnswers
You said you didn't want to get into per minute billing, yet you said you didn't mind paying for a solution.
You said you didn't want a DID, SIP or whatever mixed in.
The solution actually involves something you should be using already. It just adds a slight cost to the currently free configuration.
I have a free DID from Callcentric with free incoming calls. (the only reason for this is incoming caller id with name).
My google voice forwards the call to my Callcentric number. My Obi is configured as a SIP device with my Callcentric account so my home phones connected to the Obi ring (with real caller id).
My outgoing calls from the Obi go direct through google voice.
After the change the only addition will be to add outgoing calls (at a slight cost) to my Callcentric account.
Then all my outgoing calls will also use Callcentric instead of google voice. Many voip providers now offer outgoing caller id designation (spoofing). This means you can have your google voice number show as your outgoing caller id instead of the actual DID used to place the call.
No one knows there was a change at all. Slight added cost on your end. Even with per minute billing you can just fund your account and forget about it for some time.
And for me an added bonus is I can call my Callcentric number to ring direct to my Obi without ringing all my other phones in my google voice list.
giqcass:
Quote from: jimates on February 21, 2014, 11:19:47 am
And for me an added bonus is I can call my Callcentric number to ring direct to my Obi without ringing all my other phones in my google voice list.
I use this system with a little twist. I'm using extensions on Callcentric which you appear to be doing as well but in my case I have 2 extensions ring the same phones. The benefit here is that each extension has it's own ring. All the people in my Callcentric address book go to extension 2. People not in the address book ring extension 1. Then when a call comes in all my phones ring but I can tell which extension is ringing based on the ring itself and I know if the call is worth answering.
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