Skype as Alternative to GV Set Up Help
giqcass:
Quote from: Malachi on March 20, 2014, 06:45:10 am
Quote from: giqcass on March 19, 2014, 07:07:45 pm
I wouldn't even suggest Vestalink to my friends or family.
:D ok.. what do YOU suggest then as low(est) cost for unlimited calling?
That is a complicated question so here is a complicated answer.
My concerns about Vestalink have been stated already by others but I'll hit the high points.
I was immediately struck by that fact that they co-opted the Obi name.
The company seems to have been in existence for a while but I never heard of it till the rebraned to Obivoice.
Vestalink seems to be the third rebranding of the company.
The TOS has already changed several times.
Pricing keeps changing.
If reports are accurate you can be cancelled without notice for going over the limit on an unlimited plan. The problem is nobody knows what the limitations are. I have heard different explanations. Other service providers define these limits even if they bury the details in fine print. Most don't cancel you without notice either. Vestalink recently had a large scale breakdown due to lack of resources available. Vestalink provides backup forwarding for failover but even that failed during the problem.
Finally Vestalink feels like a company that might go belly up any time.
Currently I'll just stick to what works. I use GV for outbound and Localphone as my backup outbound. I use Google Voice forwarded to Callcentric for inbound. I wouldn't yet recommend Phone power to everyone but it has a long track record and I am keeping an eye on them as a likely future candidate. The primary complaint about phone power has to do with the rates jumping up after the contract period is over. I don't know if this will be an issue with the Obi plan. The Anveo plans are good for those with low usage and they have an excellent track record.
I wouldn't recommend VOIP to anyone that doesn't have a backup way to dial 911. It also depends on the needs of the person I am recommending the service to but in general here goes.
High reliability low outgoing usage Anveo Obi plan.
High usage lot's of features Phone Power Obi plan.
Lot's of international calling Localphone(Depending on destination)
High usage low cost medium reliability Nettalk
High usage low cost + SMS medium reliability Nettalk with unlimited text plan. They have a nice app for that.
For backup VOIP calling (not 911) I would recommend Locaphone to anyone. As long as you use your credit at least once per year it never expires. As noted above it is good for many international destinations. I also use it to call +883 Inum locations for free. Google started charging for those calls.
Sadly if I were to recommend a reliable VOIP service provider right now to anyone that wanted high usage and basic features it would be one that isn't Obi compatible. Basictalk Voip service which is powered by Vonage for $9.99 per month. For those with an unreliable internet connection I would recommend straight talk home phone service at $15 per month.
Finally I have one other recommendation that would only apply to people with specific needs. I use republic wireless for my cell phone service. For those with an Obi + BT adapter this could be a really great company to use. They have several plans available. The unusual thing about this company is they keep cost down by using VOIP instead of Cellular to connect calls when WIFI is available. They also have a WIFI only plan for $5 per month. I pay $20 for unlimited everything plan. This service is still relatively new but they are part of Bandwidth.com who has been a big player in the communications industry for some time. For those of us in areas where cell coverage sucks the ability to use WIFI at home as a mini cell tower is great. It's also a bonus for those that travel as the phone can be used outside of the country as a wifi only phone if they like.
Ostracus:
Quote from: threehappypenguins on March 19, 2014, 08:15:55 am
I read RonR's tutorial on setting up Skype: https://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=3920.0
I am looking at alternatives for unlimited long distance calling. Right now, me and my in-laws use Google Voice for our "long distance" here in Canada. I don't mind using a "pay-as-you-go" service because I don't talk on the phone much, but my mother-in-law can easily use up 4000-5000 minutes per month (she calls everybody and their mother).
Hey Carl! I think Alcazar has a new customer. ;)
kgjulie:
I second the suggestion of the Skype Freetalk adapter.
I have a Skype number. When I initially got my OBI 202, I wanted to set up Skype as one of the services using Ron R's instructions, but was never able to get it to work on the OBI. This was probably due to me and not RonR's instructions (instructions are set up for a Skype username, not a number).
For a long time, I had the $30 T-mo cell plan that had only 100 minutes, so I used GV to forward my "cell" number to my Skype number and I would take the call on Skype via its mobile app. It worked really well until Skype updated their Windows software and their mobile app. Calls forwarded to Skype ended up going to Skype's voicemail and not GV's. I downgraded both platforms and was able to get it to work again.
I got a new cell phone (Japanese import) that works on AT&T but not T-mo, so now I have an AT&T plan with 500 minutes which, combined with GV + Obi, has been more than sufficient and works well.
When OBI announced that GV support was going away, I bought the Freetalk Skype adapter referenced above, and I've been really happy with it. I don't have it connected to GV. I use it as a "home phone" for the kids to talk on as well as for incoming calls to my local area code (e.g., from the kids' schools, doctor, in-laws, etc.) where a local number is more helpful. I use the Obi as my "cell phone" since I work from home and make a fair amount of conference calls. I only use my actual cell phone when away from home.
I'd been hoping to switch to Vestalink to replace GV on my Obi, since my cell phone is now having problems, but I failed on my first attempt to sign up with Vestalink. Reading the boards is not exactly reassuring.
I'm thinking of just having GV --> Skype again using the Freetalk. I've been really happy with it, although I use it far less than the Obi. Just hoping the voice mail does not become an issue. I really don't want my calls on the Skype vm, only the calls that initially came into the Skype number.
CheapSk86:
I'm reviving this thread after a bit of a siesta to gain some insight on the last post.
Kgjulie - You mentioned you work from home, and I am in the same boat. I don't run my own business, but am a satellite worker for my company, and I find myself on several conference calls a day, some going close to 2 hours. GV was working great for this (reasons are obvious) and now that XMPP support is going away (OBI != GV) I am looking for a low cost alternative. The PAYG plans don't fit my needs in this case because there are some weeks where I may hit 500-800 minutes that week alone. And based on that calc, the 1000 min plans will see me hitting overages constantly.
Have you, or anyone else weighing in, found an alternative with the OBI that provides good service and high usage? I have seen some "unlimited" plans that are farcical because of their "up to 3000" or "not to exceed 4000" disclaimers. I saw the PP plan through the OBI "ASP" link but it doesn't mention usage or whether there is a limit. Not to mention several threads and posts having difficulty with reliability of svc with PP.
Thanks,
Dave
TonyTib:
I thought about the Skype route, but decided it was much better to use a normal ITSP (pricing is just as good, it's less hassle to setup, and one less device to keep powered on)
Dave - have you thought about using more than one ITSP? Having multiple providers is one of the Obi's big pluses. From my forum browsing here are some thoughts:
1. Heavy (somewhat?) work-related calls might not go down well with several of the providers (especially the "unlimited" plans) - I would check with the provider first on any "unlimited" plan
2. It might make sense to setup a provider just for outgoing conference calls, such as CircleNet or LocalPhone (5000 min for $5 -- so far Localphone is working well for me, but some have had problems setting it up).
3. If your usage is highly variable, but averages < 2000 min/month, Future 9's $5 plan might fit (since they do roll-over minutes) -- please check the details.
Good luck!
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