Phonepower vs anveo vs vestalink
Harley:
A note of caution Vestalink charges you for incoming and outgoing minutes, most others have free incoming minutes. They also appear to be higher on overage minutes.
nitzan:
Quote from: Harley on April 15, 2014, 08:08:17 pm
A note of caution Vestalink charges you for incoming and outgoing minutes, most others have free incoming minutes. They also appear to be higher on overage minutes.
Almost all providers count incoming minutes towards their limit. The myth that incoming is free is just that - a myth. In fact we (VOIP providers) usually pay more for incoming minutes than we do for outgoing.
CLTGreg:
Quote from: nitzan on April 16, 2014, 04:46:51 am
Quote from: Harley on April 15, 2014, 08:08:17 pm
A note of caution Vestalink charges you for incoming and outgoing minutes, most others have free incoming minutes. They also appear to be higher on overage minutes.
Almost all providers count incoming minutes towards their limit. The myth that incoming is free is just that - a myth. In fact we (VOIP providers) usually pay more for incoming minutes than we do for outgoing.
How is Callcentric doing it? Termination fees? Also, I think billing increment is important that a lot of people miss though I don't know what the average real world example is.
Vestalink charges 60/60 while Anveo charges 6/30. A 10 second call on VL costs one minute. A 10 second call on Anveo costs .5 minutes.
nitzan:
Quote from: CLTGreg on April 16, 2014, 06:29:04 am
How is Callcentric doing it?
They're doing it in one rate center - only one. I don't think they're actually making any profit from it considering the rates to call their number blocks are around $.0007/min for one and $.002/min for the other. Even a million minutes a month would likely not even cover their CLEC costs.
What's more likely is they are doing it as a loss leader for 1. advertisement, and 2. free users often become paid users.
Also keep in mind you have to purchase E911 in the US, and they charge $1.5/mo for E911. E911 does not cost $1.5/mo - it's closer to half of that - so there's some profit built-in there too. Overall though even with the E911 profit and reciprocal compensation on incoming calls it probably doesn't cover the CLEC costs.
Another aspect to all of this is that Telengy (CC's parent company) is a wholesale/business provider. It's possible that they had a business requirement to become a CLEC in New York - for example they operate calling card phone numbers for a large volume customer in the area. It's speculation, but if that's the case then offering free phone numbers to the public is just a side aspect of this - if they already have to pay for the infrastructure anyway, there is no extra cost to serve more people, and it's good PR.
CLTGreg:
Good point on the E911 fee. Compared with Anveo they are nearly if not right at double their prices at CC. I mean fr everything.
Can you park an 844 number? If so how much? You're right about being a leader. I have a couple numbers over there but my goal was to port them to Anveo but Anveo can't handle them.
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