Please, in the simplest possible terms, explain what this means ??
SteveInWA:
Quote from: vtsnaab on April 19, 2014, 10:20:25 am
Once again I thank you Nitzan, for your polite, patient helpfulness !!!
IMO, forums such as this exist for the help that folks may give freely to one another.
Too much of the time that spirit is corrupted by hyper-critical (and even snarky) posts that help nobody a'tall.
It is always such a pleasure to share 'space' with folks who explain freely and without unhelpful criticism; no matter how many times & permutations of something that may have been asked before.
Kudos to ALL such wonderfully helpful sorts of folks, and thanks.
I'm sorry that you were put-off by my snarky comments. But, my annoyance was because, in fact a large percentage of this forum has already been filled with answers to the same questions you were asking. Out of common courtesy to the people who do answer questions, it's just good forum etiquette to respect people's time and do some reading first. This forum isn't easy to search, granted, but creating yet another redundant thread just makes that information more fragmented (as opposed to adding onto an existing thread on the subject, if your questions weren't answered). Thanks.
vtsnaab:
Seeing as this thread has drawn no further replies for a while - and for the sake of utter clarity, I re-post this from my OP here=>
Quote from: vtsnaab on April 17, 2014, 09:11:54 pm
I have read every topic name and all the pages of this sub-forum today & tonight trying to grasp this situation and find the best alternative to GV.
For years I've enjoyed having 2 GV numbers via my Obi110 and knew the ride would one day end.
Despite reading so many postings here, the blog, etc - I cannot claim to comprehend what will be lost - what will stay working, and what must be replaced very clearly at all.
Then this, from the posting above, which says in part:
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Out of common courtesy to the people who do answer questions, it's just good forum etiquette to respect people's time and do some reading first.
And I reply to that assertion thusly=>
I have read and read and read until my eyes could read not even one more word - and have been checking this forum and many other info sources for many WEEKS already.
The OP of this thread was posted by me for the exact reasons stated AFTER already doing a huge amount of reading - and I am still studying what info as I may find.
So I thank you for the explanation for your personal ire, SteveInWA and also wonder if you were chastening me in some official capacity here, or just exercising your rights of free speech ??
At any event I thank you and wish all here well in the quest for good phone-via-internet !!!
classpro:
No one knows what the future of GV will be. Maybe they will start charging for forwarding at some point. Maybe they will come out with their own device for home phone service. It's really hard to know.
What I am trying to do is look at what is available now and make the best decision, which for me is generally the cheapest option. That's a free incoming line from CallCentric, and outgoing by the minute at very low rates from CircleNet, and keeping GV for forwarding. I can always port my GV number later if GV forwarding gets expensive. I can always pay for a full incoming and outgoing service if CallCentric eliminates free incoming lines. But if things stay the same, this should work.
I am trying to figure out how to use CircleNet to spoof my different incoming numbers (wife home, me home, work) when calling out, but it's not working yet. Circlenet has been really nice about helping, so I feel good about that.
Incoming on two separate google voice lines through 2 Circlenet numbers is working. Outgoing works from Circlenet spoofing my wife's telephone number. Setup programming is a bit tricky, but there is help on the forums.
Terry:
Quote from: vtsnaab on May 02, 2014, 09:49:11 am
And I reply to that assertion thusly=>
I have read and read and read until my eyes could read not even one more word - and have been checking this forum and many other info sources for many WEEKS already.
The OP of this thread was posted by me for the exact reasons stated AFTER already doing a huge amount of reading - and I am still studying what info as I may find.
I'm not clear on what you (as the OP) have concluded from this topic, or your research, thus far, if anything.
I assume that you know that you soon won't be able to use a GV account directly on your Obi as before -- it won't connect, won't make outgoing calls, won't receive calls, so you might as well delete it from the Obi when GV stops supporting XMPP. (Probably should delete it, for security and other reasons.)
One might conclude, therefore, that to continue using the Obi device, one must get a SIP/VOIP provider, which will likely not be entirely free of cost.
Your GV account(s) will still work, still record voicemail, still forward calls to a phone number (e.g. your cell phone, or a landline), still forward calls to Google talk/chat on your PC, and so forth, at least as far as I know. In short, anything you can do now via your GV web page will continue to work, until Google gives notice that it will change. (There's nothing you have been doing with your GV web page that has anything directly to do with your Obi.)
I assume also that you know that GV has not announced that it will stop forwarding to phone numbers (it's one of the things you can do on your GV web page), so any VOIP service you put on your Obi that includes a (US) phone number, can be the target of that forwarding. Maybe GV will stop forwarding or charge for it, maybe not; but I'd expect them to give us months of notice either way.
Are my assumptions wrong, and you are not convinced of any of those statements? Is the issue that those making such statements could be just making up what they (we) are saying, and you need something closer to a reference to a primary source before you will believe it? Or do you agree with the statements, but have other questions that are included in your original posting that are not covered by my statements and assumptions?
In a sense, once GV stops being a direct option on the Obi device, it opens up all sorts of other options, such as selection of a SIP/VOIP provider and what features to purchase. Maybe too many options, too much flexibility? Too many providers and not enough comparative objective reviews? Too many very technical options?
Perhaps your restatement of the OP question could include a summary (in your own words) of what you think has been communicated clearly and authoritatively, and what yet remains unanswered or at least not reliably answered to your satisfaction.
vtsnaab:
Hi Terry.
When I posted this thread I was unclear about just how much of the GV/Obi connection was about to cease - and Nitzan's reply stated it in helpfully clear language for me - which is to say - all of it.
You have re-stated this very clearly also, thank you.
As of now my thoughts are to go with some cheap and/or free services, get a new incoming number and leave the GV stuff sort of off to one side (just as it is) to receive SMSs & VMs at the very least, and if I am able to make it work on an Android phone as well (via Wifi) I will do that.
As I see it, barring something really great happening from the 'Big G', I will most likely gradually phase out my usage of their services as much as possible over time.
I was originally hoping to easily keep my 'main' GV number going along with some easy means to use SMS over that same number - but since that seems unlikely I can just as easily move on to other things.
Thanks, and Best Wishes !!
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