ring.to will not work with existing OBi devices (purchased prior to 5/1/2014)
giqcass:
I suspect they will use the Obion number or more likely the serial number to determine purchase date. I also believe this is an effort to test the waters without overloading support or overloading the system. If all goes well they might allow older Obi devices to register as well. The sister company of Ring.to rolled out the Kit Kat update on their phones in a similar fashion to reduce support cost. I trust the parent company of Ring.to Bandwidth.com since they have yet to steer me wrong. Right now I consider the ring.to service to be an experiment that will allow them to develop a productive business model.
nitzan:
Quote from: giqcass on May 24, 2014, 02:43:10 pm
I also believe this is an effort to test the waters without overloading support or overloading the system.
Perhaps. Or more likely this is a business decision to enable Obihai to sell more adapters, lol. Or could be a little bit of both.
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I trust the parent company of Ring.to Bandwidth.com since they have yet to steer me wrong. Right now I consider the ring.to service to be an experiment that will allow them to develop a productive business model.
See, that's what I don't get - where is the business upside for BW? I can't think of a model where this is significantly profitable, unless they plan to charge for service in the future. If anything- they are taking paying customers and turning them into free customers thereby losing money on this deal/decision. Example: Joe is using VOIPo, so VOIPo is paying BW for Joe's usage. Joe ports his number over to Ring.to and viola - BW no longer gets paid - makes absolutely no business sense.
drgeoff:
Quote from: giqcass on May 24, 2014, 02:43:10 pm
I suspect they will use the Obion number or more likely the serial number to determine purchase date.
Please explain. Obihai do not supply directly to end-users. They may know the date a particular device was shipped to a wholesaler or retailer but how do they know how long it remained there before purchase by the end-user?
giqcass:
Quote from: drgeoff on May 24, 2014, 05:14:49 pm
Quote from: giqcass on May 24, 2014, 02:43:10 pm
I suspect they will use the Obion number or more likely the serial number to determine purchase date.
Please explain. Obihai do not supply directly to end-users. They may know the date a particular device was shipped to a wholesaler or retailer but how do they know how long it remained there before purchase by the end-user?
I was thinking that as well but I suspect the date might be more of an approximation Another option might be to use the date the Obi first called home. Unless you lock your Obi down pretty tight it will talk to their servers.
Quote from: nitzan on May 24, 2014, 03:40:08 pm
See, that's what I don't get - where is the business upside for BW? I can't think of a model where this is significantly profitable, unless they plan to charge for service in the future. If anything- they are taking paying customers and turning them into free customers thereby losing money on this deal/decision. Example: Joe is using VOIPo, so VOIPo is paying BW for Joe's usage. Joe ports his number over to Ring.to and viola - BW no longer gets paid - makes absolutely no business sense.
The only upside I see for BW is in the R&D process. I expect them to eventually start charging. They have deep pockets so they can lose some money developing a new service. It will be interesting to see how all of this turns out.
ceg3:
I would be tempted to order a new one, but my dang OBi just refuses to die. ;D Not my fault Obihai makes a product that lasts! ::)
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