Google Voice back as Approved Service Provider!?
Crow550:
It wasn't just Obihai.
GrooveIP & Talkatone patched out the Google Voice calling and went with other services because they had gotten the same info at the time.
euphgeek:
I signed up for a GV number last year. Actually, I ported my landline to GV using instructions I found in these forums. I thought I might use an OBi device with it until I found out about Google's plans to abandon the protocol OBi was using to connect to GV. Oh, well, no harm, no foul. At least I heard about it before I bought a device. But today I got an e-mail telling me that GV is officially supported on OBi devices. My question now is, does this announcement change anything that Steve said earlier to the effect of "use at your own risk" or the future viability of XMPP?
Crow550:
Before it was not supported by Google. It was a hack and deemed insecure.
Now it's officially supported and approved by Google.
gadgetrants:
Guys, I'm not nearly as smart (or informed) as Steve, but I did a text search through Obi's announcement and did NOT find the words "supported by Google" or any variant thereof in the same sentence. I might go back and reread Steve's (fantastic) post with a fine-toothed comb, but my original read was that Google is *tolerating* the use of older protocol by Obi (now permitted given the security fix).
As I see it, there is no indication that *anything* was formally approved or supported by Google. Like Steve said, the "approved" word seems to be Obi's clever way of assuring its customers that GV calling works on their device. This shouldn't be read as Google green-lighting/approving/condoning/shaking-hands-with/etc. Obi in any meaningful sense. In other words, it works as long as it works. Correct, Steve?
-Matt
PS On a personal note, I *am* somewhat peeved at all the SKY-IS-FALLING language on various forums late last year. None of this is Steve's fault (who I first met on the GV boards, where he does the work of ten men), but his efforts to step in and remind people about the looming "deadline" had rational people like me assuming that Google's date was for real. He was just doing the best he could with the information available at the time. Still, A LOT OF PEOPLE "needlessly" fretted and in many cases, end up purchasing a VOIP plan they *may not* have needed (this is, BTW, called "counterfactual reasoning", AKA "hindsight is always 20/20" or if you prefer, Monday-morning-quarterbacking). In fact, a year from now we may discover that we ALL could have just kept the GV status quo and it all would have worked out. Again, not pointing my finger at anyone in particular -- just bemoaning the fact that on September 11, 2014 the "OBi is losing GV" story is a lot less compelling than it was last year at this time. Sometimes the confusion and uncertainty is a reasonable byproduct of the circumstances, and sometimes it's just...totally avoidable.
Crow550:
Try searching for: "Google Voice is now Officially Supported on OBi VoIP devices"
Also from someone at Google: https://plus.google.com/+CheeChew/posts/DRi3GxJ5hWK
Now listen closely....
It was not only Obihai that had gotten an E-mail from Google. It was also GrooveIP and Talkatone which are two companies that were providing VOIP calling with Google Voice on Android and iOS.
GrooveIP and Talkatone had patched out the Google Voice calling as requested and went with other providers. As Obi offered a list of services that worked with Google Voice too.
For all intents and purposes it seemed that XMPP support was going away as Google was saying it was insecure and Google Talk was merging with Hangouts.
Now Google has a more secure way and is officially supporting 3rd parties.
Do not get on to others claiming they were over dramatic. The message was clear.
However those who are still using Google Voice with the old login method should remove and re-add Google Voice to use the more secure login. ;)
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