Google Voice Manual Config
azrobert:
Quote from: SteveInWA on August 20, 2014, 05:15:02 pm
If you are intent on using the local portal, you can disable updates AFTER you complete this procedure, but you will need to enable it again the next time you need to change your Google Voice configuration, so don't forget that the portal will over-write any futzing you did on the local web page.
If you need to make any GV changes, the following procedure should preserve any changes made locally.
Via Web Interface:
System Management -> Device Update
Under Backup Configuration check Use Obi Version
Click Backup
Via OBiTalk
Enter OBi Expert Configuration
Under Manage Expert Configuration
Click Browse and find the backup from above
Click Import Config to OBi Expert
Now turn provisioning on and make your GV changes via OBiTalk
After updates are complete turn provisioning off
I have not tried the above
If you try this procedure please report back
SteveInWa, please comment
SteveInWA:
Robert, thanks; that make sense to me; all the non-GV settings should successfully backup and restore.
Obihai is pushing frequent firmware updates for the 1032 phone right now, and I need to factory reset and manually reconfigure the phone for testing purposes. The phone has its own ability to change settings from the GUI, and until all three of those settings methods are working reliably, I can't do a conclusive test. I don't have GV configured on my 202.
What I don't know, is what, if anything, GV-related is properly backed up and restored via the local backup procedure. Hopefully, your procedure will just ignore and not overwrite it. So, like you said, if someone (not me), could test it, and report back, that would be great.
In any case, it isn't difficult to just nuke and re-create the GV configuration via the portal, as long as you've restored the rest of the settings via your procedure.
revengineer:
Hi Steve,
thank you for your insight. My intention was not to "fight the power" but rather use the Obi the way I was able to use it since I bought it two years ago, i.e., it was possible to easily configure it manually without giving a third party access. I do not see any security issue with that path.
The security is that I did see, however, was that I had to give Obitalk my google credentials, which was less than ideal. This is now solved with the oauth login.
As you said, with oauth there is no manual configuration option and use of Obitalk is required. This is what I figured out the hard way trying many things because I did not find this spelled out so clearly as you did.
I do confirm that after configuring google voice, I can now turn off auto-provisioning and the Obi keeps running. This is an ok solution but not ideal since I rely on Obi to offer google voice configuration in the future if I need to reconfigure. I would hate to have Obi's financial interest (e.g., partnering relationships with voip providers) get in the way of me configuring my device at a later time. Of course, if google really turns of the google talk protocol we are screwed for other reasons.
I do beg to differ on the comment that the "firmware is solid". My recent reconfiguration was triggered by a repeatedly occurring problem, where once in a while the network light start flashing like crazy and Obi can no longer make inbound or outbound calls. the only way around that is to reboot the Obi manually, which requires me to be at home. A number of folks have reported this issue, and a few "solutions" are offered. However, none of these solutions have stood the test of time. I am at a loss, and it seems like Obi tech support is too.
In any case, I know now that I have to use Obitalk to configure and that I can disconnect from Obitalk afterward if I wish to do so for security reasons.
Thanks again for the input.
Cheers.
Mango:
Quote from: revengineer on August 21, 2014, 03:55:03 pm
I do confirm that after configuring google voice, I can now turn off auto-provisioning and the Obi keeps running.
Can you also disable OBiTALK Service?
I have another question, just based on my curiosity: if you look at the SPx Service for your Google Voice account, do you see anything relevant there? In other words, once OBiTALK generates the OAuth credentials, could you copy/paste them to another device?
SteveInWA:
Quote from: revengineer on August 21, 2014, 03:55:03 pm
Hi Steve,
I would hate to have Obi's financial interest
(e.g., partnering relationships with voip providers) get in the way of me
configuring my device at a later time. Of course, if google really turns of
the google talk protocol we are screwed for other reasons.
I don't know why people think there is some sort of nefarious, sneaky motive by Obihai or Google or the SIP ITSPs. There simply isn't. Obihai wasn't trying to con anyone into switching to one of their authorized providers, and as you can see, they want their devices to work with GV, as evidenced by their continued development of firmware and software to support GV.
If you look at Obihai's history as a company, they "bootstrapped" their business by riding on the lure of free calling via Google Voice. It attracted a lot of users, obviously. Now, Obihai is diversifying their business model to be less dependent on the uncertainty of continued access to GV. They're doing some smart things by adding new products for the enterprise and system integrator market, and partnering with service providers and resellers for mutual benefit. It's no different than a product manufacturer, for example a furnace and air conditioner manufacturer like Carrier, establishing an authorized dealer network. It makes perfect sense.
Obihai is still leveraging that "GV lure", as long as the fish are biting. They honestly couldn't care less which service provider you use, as long as you buy one of their products. I have no idea what sort of financial terms are involved with a SIP ITSP being blessed into Obihai's "Approved service provider" program, but it's probably more of a mutual back-scratching arrangement than a substantial source of revenue for Obihai. Remember: the more choices of service providers a Obihai customer has, the more likely they are to buy an OBi device. That's all it is.
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