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Region Specific Technical / Service Provider Support => North America - Including Google Voice, Skype, etc. => Topic started by: mo832 on May 15, 2014, 08:34:43 AM

Title: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: mo832 on May 15, 2014, 08:34:43 AM
So, today is the day, boys and girls!

Has anyone noticed GV stop working? I just made a test outgoing call from my GV line, and it still works normally.

I am interested in other people's experience of what happens/will happen. Either today or tomorrow or in the next few days, will it just go dead? Will nothing happen? Will there be a message? Will Google Chat disappear from the choices on the GV setup screen?

Inquiring minds want to know!
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: vtsnaab on May 15, 2014, 08:57:28 AM
Just made an IFTTT recipe for an hourly call into my main GV number to see when it's croaked ?!?
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: PCDoctor on May 15, 2014, 08:58:25 AM
i got 2 obi's. switched mom and dad to phonepower (easy and cheap) yesterday.  im trying to see if hangouts on a wifi only iphone is a viable free alternative. its not quite there yet.  anyway i was waiting for it to actually go out before i made my mind up on my second obi.  but so far its working today.  maybe the cutoff is midnight.  i think the only good alternative is phonepower.  the switch was automatic. configured my box and everything. easiest thing i ever did in voip.  lol 2 words that dont go together
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: PCDoctor on May 15, 2014, 01:07:31 PM
still on 4:08 est 5-15-14
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: Harvey on May 15, 2014, 01:56:35 PM
Google would not be following normal courtesy procedures for a corporation if it did not give at least until 11:59 pm tonight PDT.  So I would expect that the OP would not need any further replies until after that time.
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: Ostracus on May 15, 2014, 06:45:01 PM
I'm more interested in what Obihai does with the empty slot?
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: giqcass on May 15, 2014, 09:49:37 PM
Sounds like Obihai plans to do nothing with the empty slot based on the web chat they did.  I do not consider the individual that gave the response as an authority on that aspect however.  

I expect XMPP to cutoff at 12am PDT May 16 or possibly when they resume operations on the 16th at around 9am PDT.  It's hard to know what the cutoff entails.  It may even go down in segments.  I guess we are all just speculating at this point.

EDIT: Well 12am PDT May 16 has came and went.
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: ant17 on May 16, 2014, 07:58:57 AM
Just noticed that GV forward sent my call to another GV phone to VM. That phone has vestalink with the GV # forwarded, but didn't this time.
FLASH!!  just tried it now and it rang, so GV forward is spotty at best.

ANYWAY check out this.

Why wait when this free service is available now, and callcentric provides a free incoming phone number too.

Many "no wait" options here folks!

Totally free, in and outbound-->http://kot.voip01.com/

enjoy

ap
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: cdog999 on May 16, 2014, 08:01:36 AM
Quote from: ant17 on May 16, 2014, 07:58:57 AM
Just noticed that GV forward sent my call to another GV phone to VM. That phone has vestalink with the GV # forwarded, but didn't this time.
FLASH!!  just tried it now and it rang, so GV forward is spotty at best.

ANYWAY check out this.

Why wait when this free service is available now, and callcentric provides a free incoming phone number too.

Many "no wait" options here folks!

Totally free, in and outbound-->http://kot.voip01.com/

enjoy

ap
Is this for real?  or just an attempt to steal Personal information
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: jcrouch on May 16, 2014, 08:25:06 AM
Quote from: cdog999 on May 16, 2014, 08:01:36 AM
Quote from: ant17 on May 16, 2014, 07:58:57 AM
Just noticed that GV forward sent my call to another GV phone to VM. That phone has vestalink with the GV # forwarded, but didn't this time.
FLASH!!  just tried it now and it rang, so GV forward is spotty at best.

ANYWAY check out this.

Why wait when this free service is available now, and callcentric provides a free incoming phone number too.

Many "no wait" options here folks!

Totally free, in and outbound-->http://kot.voip01.com/

enjoy

ap
Is this for real?  or just an attempt to steal Personal information

I am ignoring all of these 'free' offers for now. Kind of fishy that they decide to 'welcome' themselves to Obi the day after GV is set to go down. Why didn't they show up sooner when everyone was looking for a replacement?
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: 7Priest7 on May 16, 2014, 08:27:44 AM
Quote from: jcrouch on May 16, 2014, 08:25:06 AM
I am ignoring all of these 'free' offers for now. Kind of fishy that they decide to 'welcome' themselves to Obi the day after GV is set to go down. Why didn't they show up sooner when everyone was looking for a replacement?

GrooveIP users have been given a free offer for Ring.to.
The reason I didn't know about that till today is because the GrooveIP update was pushed today.
I backed my old GVoice GrooveIP then reverted after signing up for ring.to.
If XMPP support never goes down, I would be so happy.
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: vtsnaab on May 16, 2014, 10:13:48 AM
Ant17 seems to be affiliated with this http://kot.voip01.com/ thing by the fact that it has been in this person's most recent postings repeatedly...

Also, see here:
http://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=8073

This interests me greatly though:
QuoteGrooveIP users have been given a free offer for Ring.to.
As I just got my very 1st Android phone for this transitional time...
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: PCDoctor on May 16, 2014, 12:23:29 PM
my obi is still working with gv today????
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: paulsalem on May 16, 2014, 02:52:29 PM
Mine is still working too.
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: Rosemot on May 16, 2014, 04:37:59 PM
All my 3 Obi110 are still working as of now.
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: crystal19 on May 16, 2014, 04:46:06 PM
America is built on Free-dom of speech. They cannot take away our right to speak freely :o :o :o :o
Google tried remove XMPP on April 1st but got delayed by 45 days.
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: gderf on May 16, 2014, 04:48:23 PM
I think we should open a half dozen threads with many posts in each, day after day, over in the Google support forum, telling them that GV XMPP still works, it's past May 15, yadda, yadda, ying.

Maybe then they will shut it off?
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: Kage on May 16, 2014, 04:52:35 PM
Quote from: gderf on May 16, 2014, 04:48:23 PM
I think we should open a half dozen threads with many posts in each, day after day, over in the Google support forum, telling them that GV XMPP still works, it's past May 15, yadda, yadda, ying.

Maybe then they will shut it off?


Why do you want to shut it off? Or is there supposed to be a sarcasm tag somewhere?
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: swg0101 on May 16, 2014, 05:29:52 PM
Now it would be interesting if Google does change their minds and leave XMPP open - although maybe they are just delayed because in my Google Apps I still see the old dialer style (which I assume uses XMPP)... The official Gmail users I believe got a new updated dialer though..
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: 7Priest7 on May 17, 2014, 08:14:40 AM
Let's not forget.
They announced the shutdown ~6months ago.

They had plenty of time to prepare, they probably never intended to shut it down.
Probably just a joke.
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: swg0101 on May 17, 2014, 10:18:26 AM
I wouldn't think it's a joke, since Google usually pick other stuff to joke about (considering what they have done during April Fools day.)
Joking about shutting off something like this will definitely get haters behind their backs, so I don't think this is it...
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: Mrwirez on May 17, 2014, 11:32:51 AM
I can receive incoming GV calls but, I  cannot make GV outgoing calls from my Obi100.

I signed up with PhonePower last night since I could not get Vestalink to configure [tried for 2 days]. The PP service seems solid and at $60/year is not bad....  BUT it is not free either..

Sigh....  Obi and GV saved me $$HUNDREDS$$! Komikast was about $25/month two + years ago..

One small rant I have is:  Friggin Google killed of so many great apps to make way for Google+ and Hangouts, it's a real shame. I personally HATE G+ and Hangouts. They are invasive P.O.S. that I continually have to block and delete...

OK.. rant over... all is well
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: GC_convertee on May 17, 2014, 11:53:32 AM
my 202 still working outbound 1140am pst
purchased a $30 vestalink plan before their "offer expired" but havent tried to set it up yet
I actually have 5 gv nums and a obi202 and and obi 101
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: Rustifer on May 17, 2014, 12:08:11 PM
05/17/14 - 2:08pm - Still working.  :)
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: mrandradej on May 17, 2014, 04:42:29 PM
I hope there is a set in stone statement soon by Google. Hopefully before 30 days so I can decide whether or not to get my refund from PhonePower.
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: LonnieMcClure on May 17, 2014, 08:01:44 PM
I tested again at 9:57 PM CDT 05/17/2014, and I am still able to make outbound calls using my Obi110 & Google Voice.

Inbound calls appear to be another matter, however. I had someone call me earlier today to test that, and my phone never rang, although my Google Hangouts app on my iPod Touch did.

I was able to pick up the call on my iPod Touch with no problem, but until I connected a headset, it sounded like the other person was in a noisy room, although they stated I sounded fine.
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: swg0101 on May 17, 2014, 08:29:20 PM
I think Google Voice has some issues with forwarding to certain numbers, like the Callcentric ones if you got the free NY numbers. I haven't had any issues forwarding to normal cell or landline phones though...
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: kittyworld on May 19, 2014, 09:45:28 AM
Last night after getting no inbound calls (didn't test out-bounding calls) I signed up w/ PhonePower. The service is for my mom and she won't tolerate it being glitchy or unreliable. $35 a year isn't bad at all. I used to pay that much per month! With 2 free years of GV I saved a lot of money, so I really can't complain if I no longer have free phone service.
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: PCDoctor on May 20, 2014, 05:25:41 PM
mines down in and out.  time to go to hangouts on an old iphone for free or phonepower for $60/yr with my obi
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: PCDoctor on May 20, 2014, 06:11:40 PM
nevermind, i plugged it back in and made a call with it  so???
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: Crow550 on May 20, 2014, 08:24:25 PM
I didn't update GrooveIP and I went to make a call and the other end could not hear me.

Others are starting to report this and these aren't all GrooveIP users. So maybe this is happening in groups?

Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: Orple on May 23, 2014, 11:03:46 AM
I have continued to use GV as usual, other than for a few hours the morning of the 20th. First I could hear him but not the other way around, then the next call he could hear me but I couldn't hear him. I called out from gmail and all was fine. Because GV had been working normally, I had unchecked forwarding that number to the free incoming callcentric account I set up on the 13th. After I had this problem I began forwarding again but a call didn't come through, either because it took some time to get the flow going normally or maybe it was on google's end. I read in their forum they were doing an update so that may be why the problem. Even though they say  in the GV forum, google chat no longer works, I am still using it, have not switched to hangouts. Maybe that will change, maybe not.

I had a thought that may be wrong but thought I'd share. The official statement from google never used the phrase, '3rd party hardware', only '3rd party applications' or aps. Now, the adapter is hardware and Obion is a software app, like talkatone, correct? I'm wondering if they have disabled the ability to use that ap but it has nothing to do with the adapter. I can run what ever software on my pc that is compatibale with the OS but a new OS can make old software or aps unusable.

I have GV forward to free incoming Callcentric acount with free DID. I set up outgoing PAYG with them also, should I need to use it. I have google chat checked in GV, speakers and microphone, a humble set up. So far the only cost is the 911. I couldn't make myself lie to get out of it.  ::) But, I might feel guilty if I used them without giving them anything at all.

Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: Harley on May 23, 2014, 07:31:07 PM
I have Phone Power on SP1 and Google Voice on Sp2 and everything works fine.  I have PP lite so in order to  share the load I'm going to use GV as long as I can.  Most of our calls are short 5 or 10 minutes so these phone calls are handled on SP1 which is Phone Power. For those long winded folks and relatives that  talk a lot I program our phone with their phone number preceded by **2  (**2xxxxxxxxxx) and put them on SP2 which is GV and this works out great, and cut down on more expensive long outgoing calls. This process translates in substantial cost savings each month.  If and when GV  goes dark I will put circlenet or some other less expensive voip provider on SP2 to replace GV. All is good.
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: zorlac on May 23, 2014, 08:24:28 PM
"If and when GV  goes dark I will put circlenet or some other less expensive voip provider on SP2 to replace GV. All is good."

Just be aware that CN is outbound only, really cheap rates though.
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: Ostracus on May 25, 2014, 07:02:34 AM
Quote from: 7Priest7 on May 17, 2014, 08:14:40 AM
Let's not forget.
They announced the shutdown ~6months ago.

They had plenty of time to prepare, they probably never intended to shut it down.
Probably just a joke.

Anyone laughing?
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: Kage on May 25, 2014, 08:55:35 AM
As much as I wish they'd keep XMPP so we can use it with obi that's not going to happen. In gmail, there's currently two options: the new Hangouts and the old Google Chat. They won't have both forever; once most of the bugs in Hangouts are taken of and it's working in the platforms where they plan to implement it they'll remove Google Chat so people do need to be prepared.   
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: zorlac on May 25, 2014, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: Ostracus on May 25, 2014, 07:02:34 AM
Quote from: 7Priest7 on May 17, 2014, 08:14:40 AM
Let's not forget.
They announced the shutdown ~6months ago.
They had plenty of time to prepare, they probably never intended to shut it down.
Probably just a joke.
Anyone laughing?
I am, all the way to the bank.  :D
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: dcuste on May 27, 2014, 07:06:53 AM
Does anybody else show their GV account status as "offline"? I haven't even logged into obitalk in years, but my SP2 GV account password was changed and as a result, my SP2 phone stopped working. I tried to log into obitalk all day yesterday with no luck. The connection just timed out every time. Today I logged in and noticed the GV status as offline. I changed the SP2 password and got everything working but the status is still showing offline. Is this odd?

One other question for anybody real familiar with this Google hangouts switchover ........
When GV does finally discontinue XMPP support, will my GV incoming calls stop ringing the OBI but continue to get forwarded to my cell number?
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: Harley on May 27, 2014, 08:02:53 AM
My phones seem to work but  Phone Power sp1 on my OBI dashboard shows it's offline?
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: arglebargle on May 27, 2014, 09:02:40 AM
Quote from: Harley on May 23, 2014, 07:31:07 PM
I have Phone Power on SP1 and Google Voice on Sp2 and everything works fine.  I have PP lite so in order to  share the load I'm going to use GV as long as I can. 

I have the same setup and it's still working for now.
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: BigJim_McD on May 27, 2014, 09:03:47 AM
dcuste,  Yes, I'm seeing the same issue.  This does not affect Google Voice.

See: OBiTALK Community > General Support > OBiTALK Web Portal > Obitalk Portal shows "Offline"

http://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=8160.msg53657#msg53657

I see the same issue on my 3 OBi devices,  the devices are shown offline and SP1 on all 3 devices shows offline.   Status is still good at "voip.ms" and at "Vestalink" and on the ADMIN Web display for each of the devices.  And most important the devices are still handling calls.

My OBi DevicesOBi   Number   Speed Dial    Status

OBi202 Main - VestaLink, viop.ms, GV   500 xxx zzzz    Offline
SP1    Home1 ph1,2 sp1 VestaLink   Offline
SP2    Home# ph1,2 sp2 GglVoice
SP3    Home2 ph1,2 sp3 voip.ms
SP4    vOFc #3 Ph2 sp4 x1024 voip.ms

Obi100 vOFc Ph4 voip.ms, GV     300 xxx zzzz   Offline
SP1    vOFc #3 ph4 sp1 x1041 voip.ms    Offline
SP2    vOFc# ph4 sp2 GglVoice

OBi110 Home Ph3 voip.ms, GV       200 xxx zzzz    Offline
SP1    Home2 ph3 sp1 x1031 voip.ms    Offline
SP2    Home# ph3 sp2 GglVoice

The displayed Status was working at ~ 01:00 AM MDT.
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: dcuste on May 27, 2014, 09:56:49 AM
All is good now. I'm guessing the whole OBitalk.com system crashed yesterday and the offline status was just a hangover part of that glitch. Who knows, but both SP1 and SP2 show connected. I also updated my firmware to build 4350 and that when smoothly and seems to be working as well. Life is good again. I'm thinking I'll just hang tight until GV goes away, unless somebody tells me for sure that I'm going to lose the GY forwarding to my cell number feature. 
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: BigJim_McD on May 27, 2014, 10:16:31 AM
dcuste,   

Good to know that "All is good now" for you.  The OBiTalk incorrectly displaying "OFFLINE" issue has cleared for me also and appears to be stable once again.

I'm leaving Google Voice configured on SP2 of my 3 OBi devices until it quits working.  I continue to use Vestalink on SP1 for my Home phone service and voip.ms for my "Virtual Office" phone service. 

I only use Google Voice as a phone call control and forwarding service, but I regularly make an outgoing Google Voice test call just to see it it's still working.
Title: Re: Is anyone cut off from GV yet?
Post by: Harley on May 27, 2014, 10:25:23 AM
Yes it's all good now. I bet most Obi users didn't even notice the problem. If you didn't visit the Obi portal (Dashboard) you wouldn't even know the Obi went berserk the past several hours.