050plus.com (Japanese SIP provider) - having trouble

[DPUkyle]

Hi forums.

I've recently signed up for a SIP provider in Japan but they only support their proprietary applications on iOS, Android and Windows.

Their service uses sip-tls (sometimes called SIPS), so I thought there was hope when I found the TLS setting under Service Providers -> ITSP Profile A/B -> SIP -> ProxyServerTransport.

Using wget or curl, I can send my service username and password and get a response which contains - I thought - all the info I'd need.  Here's the request/response data with sensitive data replaced with # marks:

Request:
curl -d 'ifVer=2.0&apVer=2.0.4&buildOS=IOS&buildModel=iPhone4,1&buildVer=5.1&earlyStFlg=0&no050=050########&pw050=######' https://start.050plus.com/sFMCWeb/other/InitSet.aspx

Response:
<replyInfo>
   <resultInfo>
      <resCd>N0000</resCd>
      <resMsg>正常に終了しました</resMsg>
      <errCd></errCd>
   </resultInfo>
   <resultEarlySt>
      <sipID>########</sipID>
      <sipPwd>########</sipPwd>
      <tranGwInfo>
         <tranGwAd>kar-f2fcp.050plus.com</tranGwAd>
         <payTranGwPNm>443</payTranGwPNm>
         <freeTranGwPNm>5075</freeTranGwPNm>
         <nicNm>fmc########</nicNm>
         <pingTm>600</pingTm>
         <pongTm>120</pongTm>
      </tranGwInfo>
      <ticketInfo>
         <ticketEx></ticketEx>
      </ticketInfo>
      <chargPlan>02</chargPlan>
      <frdCd>########</frdCd>
      <rNo050>050########</rNo050>
      <rDistingId>#########</rDistingId>
   </resultEarlySt>
</replyInfo>

I really enjoy using my OBi110 and have had no trouble with the guided setup for Google Voice, voip.ms and sipgate, but I'm really a novice when it comes to setting up a custom provider.

Hopefully someone on the forums can help me set up my OBi110 via Expert Configuration to work with this provider - if it's even possible!  I'm especially clueless about the frdCd and rDistingId values returned at the bottom.

Fingers crossed and thanks in advance...

[Leozou]

Hi,

I've try to use 050Plus on before.
As far as I remember, 050Plus require TLS/SRTP and OBi haven't capability for this protocol.

So, I choose other SIP provider in Japan and it works fine.
Please check following URL.

FUSION IP-Phone SMART
http://www.fusioncom.co.jp/kojin/smart/feature/

[VOIPisGreat]

Hi,

I've try to use 050Plus on before.
As far as I remember, 050Plus require TLS/SRTP and OBi haven't capability for this protocol.

So, I choose other SIP provider in Japan and it works fine.
Please check following URL.

FUSION IP-Phone SMART
http://www.fusioncom.co.jp/kojin/smart/feature/

I don't really know Japanese. But it looks like fusion charges 8.4 yen/30 sec to PSTN? Isn't it very expensive? I believe it's fairly common to find a provider that charges only a few cents (USD) per minute to Japan, no?

[Leozou]

Hi,
Yes, Fusion's 8.4 yen/30 sec is expensive compare to other SIP.
http://www.teradas.net/archives/4514/
http://www.ipden.jp/price.html

Follwoings are reasons why I choose Fusion.
- In-coming call capable with Japanese phone number
- No basic fees
- Cheap at short call to cell phone
- Major mother company

P.S.
I sometime use Google Voice for out-going call.

[VOIPisGreat]

Hi,
Yes, Fusion's 8.4 yen/30 sec is expensive compare to other SIP.
http://www.teradas.net/archives/4514/
http://www.ipden.jp/price.html

Follwoings are reasons why I choose Fusion.
- In-coming call capable with Japanese phone number
- No basic fees
- Cheap at short call to cell phone
- Major mother company

P.S.
I sometime use Google Voice for out-going call.

Thanks for the reply. The Japanese phone number is indeed appealing. I have a question tho. All the SPs in my obi already in use so there's no way for me to add Fusion to my obi as a SP. Is it possible to do sip forward or iNum forward to the SP in my obi without incurring any charge?

[DPUkyle]

@VOIPisGreat:
Yes, unfortunately everything is expensive in Japan 
I agree with Leozou that having an incoming number capability (DID?) within Japan and for no monthly fee is the prime motivation for using the Fusion IP-Smart service. It is also post-billed, so no need to prepay. Many 050-prefixed IP providers also provide free calling among members (list below*). Finally, since I'm in Tokyo I trust that Fusion's servers are going to have much lower latency compared to a cheaper provider but whose servers are outside of Japan.

About your obi configuration, you could consider using a hosted trunk somewhere else such as pbxes.org. I'm very new to VoIP, but my understanding is that if you set Fusion IP-SMART as a trunk, you could then set a separate extension on the trunk for free "internal" transfers. I'm doing something similar but with Google Voice. I do believe doing this with Fustion would requires a premium pbxes.org membership.

For reference, this is my personal setup:
Obi 110:
SP1: Extension 300 of pbxes.org trunk
SP2: Fustion IP-SMART account

pbxes.org is hosting my Google Voice trunk.

Android phone native SIP dialer ("Internet Calling"):
Extension 200 of pbxes.org trunk

SP1 is the default for outgoing calls which is my US Google Voice number. But I can also use this as the outgoing number from the Android SIP dialer. Further, I can dial 300 from the Android dialer which rings SP1 on the Obi 110. Pretty cool.

When I want to make an outgoing call from the Fustion IP-SMART (SP2), simply dial **2 to temporarily "switch" to SP2.

@Leozou:
As you know, ring and dial tones are slightly different between US and Japan. I can successfully make outgoing calls from my ATA, bince the Obi ATA is preset for US values there is no dial tone.

I know this thread is probably not appropriate but if you know of the proper settings for Japan dial tone, etc. please share. I believe the would be set at:
Obi Expert Configuration -> Tone Settings -> Tone Profile A/B

日本語でも構いません。よろしくお願いいたします。

* http://www.fusioncom.co.jp/kojin/smart/ip-isp/

[Leozou]

Hi, DPUkyle
About ring and dial tone, I'm using default setting.
Sorry for I can not help you.

自分はアメリカで購入した電話機をObi202に接続して使っているためか、特に問題ないのでダイアルトーンの設定を変更していないのです。

[TTAZ]

Hi,
Yes, Fusion's 8.4 yen/30 sec is expensive compare to other SIP.
http://www.teradas.net/archives/4514/
http://www.ipden.jp/price.html

Follwoings are reasons why I choose Fusion.
- In-coming call capable with Japanese phone number
- No basic fees
- Cheap at short call to cell phone
- Major mother company

P.S.
I sometime use Google Voice for out-going call.

Please tell me how to set my obi110 for Fusion IP phone? I just signed up their service but don't know how to enable it with my Obi 110 device.

thanks so much

[Leozou]

Still on? I didn't noticed your post since now. I checked Obi device setting as below.

Service Provider Proxy Server: smart.0038.net
Service Provider Proxy Server Port: 5060
Outbound Proxy Server: smart.0038.net
User Name: ######## 8 digit SIP account number
Password: ######## SIP account password
URI: ########@smart.0038.net
       ^^^^^^^ put 8 digit SIP account number