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How do I auto provision TWO Anveo numbers in one account?

Started by Panachequeens, April 14, 2014, 11:57:34 AM

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MikeHObi

With Anveo there are Accounts, and there are phone numbers. 

Accounts have SIP configuration data.  Phone numbers do not.  Phone numbers have devices assigned to them (via their call flow) one of which can be any SIP device on any Sub account you have access to.

If you add a second "sub" account you gain an additional SIP configuration that you can then bind to an additional phone number.

By having 2 phone numbers on one account, those should work independent and each have their own call flow by default.  In that call flow you can route both numbers to your sip device, but you can't configure them independently on your Obi.  you need another sub account to use another slot on your obi. 

Now you might be able to configure an outgoing call flow that allows you to enter star codes to pick what number to use when dialing out, but if your account allows an outgoing call flow it probably allows the sub accounts.
Obi202 user & Obi100 using Anveo and Callcentric.

Panachequeens

Alan, they were NOT pointed to the same call flow so I changed the second number to the same call flow as the first number and was unsuccessful in calling that number. I then tried changing the call flow to the SIP that is registered on the primary account and was unsuccessful there as well. Thanks for the suggestions though.

CLTGreg

I wonder if Obihai would be any help here. I have not tried a second number with the Obi Anveo account and I'm not sure what would happen if you changed the 202 to outbound a second number. Incoming should still work for free but I am not sure about outbound if it reverts to the per minute plan or if it uses the same bucket as the first. I hope it's the latter and at some point I need to know.

That said, you could setup a regular Anveo account for the second number and direct that do a different port on the Obi. Incoming calls would still be included but not outbound and there's an additional E911 fee. Not ideal but basically what I'm doing until I combine them but these questions need to be cleared up and it looks like I may need to try the second number on the Obi plan to see if it works for me. I'm just chicken to burn $6 to do it.

AlanB

Quote from: Panachequeens on April 15, 2014, 07:09:00 PM
Alan, they were NOT pointed to the same call flow so I changed the second number to the same call flow as the first number and was unsuccessful in calling that number. I then tried changing the call flow to the SIP that is registered on the primary account and was unsuccessful there as well. Thanks for the suggestions though.
One more thing to try as a test not a permanent solution. In Avneo can you set up your unlimited number to forward to your working number. Then call the unlimited plan number and see if that works.

Panachequeens

Well, here was MY solution, albeit maybe not the most economical - I asked Anveo to change my Obi-Anveo account to a FREE account. Voila - I got the SIP credentials, plugged them into the Obi Configurator for Anveo and then set up the one available sub-account. A guess a "good" deal is only one that actually WORKS for you :)

Thanks all!

AlanB

The Obi plans do have limitations. They will work for most situations but certainly not all. Glad they worked it out for you. Thanks for following up to let us all know.

c3c3

So what happened to the money you already paid for the 1-year Obi-Anveo plan?

Panachequeens

I would assume it sits in the account and now is applied monthly to the two personal unlimiited numbers I now have plus extra charges. I have not attempted to ask for any refund.

tns1

I am also getting ready to use 2 different (US) numbers on an Obi202 with either the same or different Anveo plans. The ObiTalk/Anveo plan would be preferable if it would allow this, since there is a cost savings over the personal unlimited plan if there is much outgoing usage. 

It seems like there would be two approaches:
a) Have one account to manage two different numbers, possibly using a sub-account. This thread suggests that this is not possible if one (or both?) of the plans is the ObiTalk/Anveo plan, unless you also pay a monthly upgrade fee. I am confused over this point. Is the special plan so good it has to be 'Limited to one per customer', or is there some technical reason different type plans can't co-exist on the same device?

b) Have two different accounts to manage one number each. Can two different accounts share one 202 device?
It seems less desirable but maybe some households would like this option.

The Anveo website is lacking in this kind of info. I'll try to get an answer from them.

tns1

Since there is uncertainty about the Obitalk special plan, I decided to take the proven path forward. I already have a free, personal unlimited monthly plan/number setup, so I decided to just go ahead and try to create a sub-acct under the one I have, and maybe convert them to Obitalk special plans later.

I first submitted a porting request for my two home numbers, selecting the prepaid annual personal unlimited plans to obtain free porting. The online port application is not without issues. I got logged out before I hit 'submit', and the dialog just hung forever. 2nd time, it completed but review of the ticket showed it had missed one of my 3 attachments. I had to edit the ticket and add the missing file.

Update - Porting of the two numbers took 7 days, and was no cost for personal unlimited plans with annual prepaid.

A few questions about adding a sub-acct. My intent is to create a sub-acct that will share funds with the main acct, but use a different mailbox, call flow, etc. I don't necessarily need a separate login for that sub-acct.

Under Account Preferences->SIP Registration, I have one primary SIP user name (10digit), which is also my Anveo primary acct#. There is also a generated SIP password which allows the 202 to work with Anveo.  

When I added a sub-acct it prompted for a user name and email. I gave it a unique one since I thought it necessary. It created a new 10digit SIP user name/acct#, but it did not give me a new SIP password to go with it. Am I supposed to use my existing SIP password for every sub-acct?
Fixed - I just needed to go into sub-acct Preferences->Sip Registration and register before it gave me a new SIP password.

The sub-acct dialog did ask me to create a new password, but this is so the sub-acct can have a separate website login, and separate email address.

The sub-acct got created, but will not register from the Obi. The reason looks like I don't have e911 on that sub-acct. With Anveo is it possible to avoid a 2nd e911 charge for the 2nd number at the same house address? What if I used the same user name/email to create the sub-acct?
Fixed - I just needed to go into sub-acct Preferences->e911 and add the address. Whatever you add appears to overwrite the primary account. I also got dinged another .80, so I guess the charge is not 'per address', but 'per user/per address'. Could I have reused my same user name, login to avoid the extra charge?

Update - What I missed is that I needed to go into Sub-Acct->Action->Move Phone Numbers to move the number for my line2 to the sub-acct. Once I did this, the Phone Number Edit dialog showed only one number under each acct, and reported it as "assigned to" the correct acct. Once this was done, I could edit the e911 address info to be unique for each number.