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Google Voice - still working - and its 16 May 2014

Started by justgrant, May 16, 2014, 03:27:25 AM

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aopisa

Quote from: vadr on May 19, 2014, 05:01:34 PM
Quote from: Pepi on May 19, 2014, 06:31:43 AM
I'm glad I've got 911 support now.

Don't you have a cellphone?

A cellphone does not give you e911 service. It will not give emergency services your exact address. In the event that the person calling cannot speak or does not know the address can cause potentially devastating and life threatening effects.

7Priest7

#62
Quote from: aopisa on May 19, 2014, 06:17:44 PM
A cellphone does not give you e911 service. It will not give emergency services your exact address. In the event that the person calling cannot speak or does not know the address can cause potentially devastating and life threatening effects.

It'd give them more than enough.
GPS and/or cellphone triangulation are used to determine a 911 callers location.
If you live in a single story building, they know exactly where you are.
If you live in a multistory building, they will knock until they find you.

If you cannot speak and you have a 911 call going they will dispatch and they will find the phone that has 911 dialed.
Course if you cannot speak, what caused you to be unable to speak yet capable of dialing 911?

Devastating and life threatening effects?
I don't know where you live but I've never seen a police arrive early enough to actually stop anything.
They just press charges after the fact.

If you are incapable of speaking due to medical reasons, it's probably too late for you anyways.

aopisa

Quote from: 7Priest7 on May 19, 2014, 07:21:30 PM
Quote from: aopisa on May 19, 2014, 06:17:44 PM
A cellphone does not give you e911 service. It will not give emergency services your exact address. In the event that the person calling cannot speak or does not know the address can cause potentially devastating and life threatening effects.

It'd give them more than enough.
GPS and/or cellphone triangulation are used to determine a 911 callers location.
If you live in a single story building, they know exactly where you are.
If you live in a multistory building, they will knock until they find you.

If you cannot speak and you have a 911 call going they will dispatch and they will find the phone that has 911 dialed.
Course if you cannot speak, what caused you to be unable to speak yet capable of dialing 911?

Devastating and life threatening effects?
I don't know where you live but I've never seen a police arrive early enough to actually stop anything.
They just press charges after the fact.

If you are incapable of speaking due to medical reasons, it's probably too late for you anyways.

Wow, some really dumb generalizations there.
A heart attack. A stroke. Losing consciousness after you dial. Yeah, I guess I would just rather die in those situations since obviously nothing can be done to intervene at that point.
Go ahead and roll dice with your life or the life of a loved one while the paramedics knock on every door of a multi unit building where seconds may count.
I hope you never need attention for the things you so glibly glossed over.
Your right, it's not worth the .80/ month that Anveo charges for e911.

7Priest7

Quote from: aopisa on May 19, 2014, 07:36:01 PM
A heart attack. A stroke. Losing consciousness after you dial.

If you are so concerned about these things happening to you, perhaps you should get life alert or something more serious than just e911.
Both heart attacks and strokes are very avoidable.
Both these fatal illnesses can be easily avoided by having a healthy weight, regular exercise, and a healthy diet.
Have faith friend, you can free yourself from your fear with a little prevention.

Police Dispatchers will always ask your location if you can talk.
If calling for a family member, you will not be advantaged by having proper e911.

justgrant

As of 7:30 AM Eastern Time U.S. on 20 May 2014, with OBi202, all of my GV lines are still working.

justgrant


aopisa

Quote from: 7Priest7 on May 19, 2014, 11:14:43 PM
Quote from: aopisa on May 19, 2014, 07:36:01 PM
A heart attack. A stroke. Losing consciousness after you dial.

If you are so concerned about these things happening to you, perhaps you should get life alert or something more serious than just e911.
Both heart attacks and strokes are very avoidable.
Both these fatal illnesses can be easily avoided by having a healthy weight, regular exercise, and a healthy diet.
Have faith friend, you can free yourself from your fear with a little prevention.

Police Dispatchers will always ask your location if you can talk.
If calling for a family member, you will not be advantaged by having proper e911.

You are correct! It sounds like you have thought of every conceivable type of emergency.

A simple change of diet and being more careful is all it takes. I have already increased the amount of servings of fruits and vegetables that I am eating on a daily basis based on your research.

A few years ago my house was struck by lightening and a fire started. The lightening blew out the phone lines. I called 911 from my cell. I lived on Deer Run Road. The fire department went to White Tail Lane. Close enough, right? Same animal. Took them an extra 30 minutes to get there. Triangulation worked great! Human error? No problem!

E911 is a stupid worthless system. Thanks for opening my eyes.

Pepi

This thread is starting to sound like Washington  ;D

Rick

Quote from: vtsnaab on May 19, 2014, 11:52:23 AM
At the very same time, my GV number DID become my main point of contact for most of the folks I stay in contact with.

Though I am not eager to change my 'main' number - this is exactly what I will do because trying to plan ahead is quite impossible with no specific information regarding when the Obi/GV combo will die.

I hesitate to post in this nonsensical discussion, but for others that may get confused from incorrect information, I will make the point that you do NOT need to give up your GV number.  There are two options:  1) Forward the GV number to another service (I'm doing that now) and 2) Port the number to another service.

7Priest7

Quote from: aopisa on May 20, 2014, 04:39:06 AM
You are correct! It sounds like you have thought of every conceivable type of emergency.

I know of no emergency that would allow me to dial 911 yet prevent me from stating my location.
I'm healthy and not at risk for the two health related emergencies you listed.

Nothing about a fire would prevent me from talking.
I once had a house fire, I escorted my pets outside, proceeded to drown the fire with my dogs water bucket and the faucet, then called the non-emergency number. The time it would've took me to call 911 and wait for a fire truck to arrive, would've meant the house would no longer be there.

Rick

Quote from: 7Priest7 on May 20, 2014, 09:25:42 AM
Quote from: aopisa on May 20, 2014, 04:39:06 AM
You are correct! It sounds like you have thought of every conceivable type of emergency.

I know of no emergency that would allow me to dial 911 yet prevent me from stating my location.
I'm healthy and not at risk for the two health related emergencies you listed.

Nothing about a fire would prevent me from talking.
I once had a house fire, I escorted my pets outside, proceeded to drown the fire with my dogs water bucket and the faucet, then called the non-emergency number. The time it would've took me to call 911 and wait for a fire truck to arrive, would've meant the house would no longer be there.

Anyone with common sense knows you dial the fire department, THEN consider fighting the fire.  You were very lucky.

vadr

Quote from: aopisa on May 19, 2014, 07:36:01 PM
A heart attack. A stroke. Losing consciousness after you dial.

If you think that 911 will actually rush to timely save your life... you must be young.

Here's some material that perhaps will open your eyes a little. You can google these headlines, so you have a better perspective of the possible consequences of your contacting 911.


Wichita Police Officer Orders Grandmother to Stop CPR on Drowned Boy Despite Alleged Signs of Recovery — The Boy Dies

CHARLESTON, WV –  The American Civil Liberties Union today filed a federal discrimination lawsuit on behalf of the surviving family members of a Welch man who died of a heart attack after the police chief physically prevented his friend from performing CPR.  The police chief blocked the CPR because he falsely assumed that the man, who was gay, was HIV positive and therefore a health risk.

Just Dial 911? The Myth of Police Protection

Woman Calls 911 For Diabetic Fiance, Police Shoot And Kill Man Upon Arrival

"Also, 911 tapes were released that show the teen was calm and things under control for 10 minutes but then the boy was shot about 1 minute after a police officer from Southport showed up on the scene."

Deadly 911 Calls: NYPD Kills African Immigrant Student Inside Home After Mother Calls for Ambulance

She Calls 911 to Help Fiance; Cops Kill Him

Father dies after police stop daughter's CPR

dircom

#72
Do you work for the National Enquirer?

aopisa

Quote from: vadr on May 20, 2014, 11:14:32 AM
Quote from: aopisa on May 19, 2014, 07:36:01 PM
A heart attack. A stroke. Losing consciousness after you dial.

If you think that 911 will actually rush to timely save your life... you must be young.

Here's some material that perhaps will open your eyes a little. You can google these headlines, so you have a better perspective of the possible consequences of your contacting 911.


Wichita Police Officer Orders Grandmother to Stop CPR on Drowned Boy Despite Alleged Signs of Recovery — The Boy Dies

CHARLESTON, WV –  The American Civil Liberties Union today filed a federal discrimination lawsuit on behalf of the surviving family members of a Welch man who died of a heart attack after the police chief physically prevented his friend from performing CPR.  The police chief blocked the CPR because he falsely assumed that the man, who was gay, was HIV positive and therefore a health risk.

Just Dial 911? The Myth of Police Protection

Woman Calls 911 For Diabetic Fiance, Police Shoot And Kill Man Upon Arrival

"Also, 911 tapes were released that show the teen was calm and things under control for 10 minutes but then the boy was shot about 1 minute after a police officer from Southport showed up on the scene."

Deadly 911 Calls: NYPD Kills African Immigrant Student Inside Home After Mother Calls for Ambulance

She Calls 911 to Help Fiance; Cops Kill Him

Father dies after police stop daughter's CPR


911 emergency services take over 240 million calls a year. I don't even want to calculate the minute percentage that your handful of sensational examples represents.

You and 7priest7 are absolutely correct. 911 and e911 are for losers. It's much better to handle the situation whatever it may be entirely by yourself. By that extension police and fire services are completely unnecessary. As long as we all have buckets, garden hoses and few band-aids in the medicine cabinet we will be OK!

Thanks! I feel so much better now that your thorough examinations have put this troublesome menace to society to rest!

7Priest7

Quote from: aopisa on May 20, 2014, 02:01:36 PM
You and 7priest7 are absolutely correct. 911 and e911 are for losers. It's much better to handle the situation whatever it may be entirely by yourself. By that extension police and fire services are completely unnecessary

Neither of us stated that 911 is for losers.

Police can and do cause more trouble than they fix in many cases.

He stated that cell phones provide a great free outlet for 911 calls.
I stood by that statement.

Now you are putting words in our mouths.
911 has its place, It doesn't need to be paid for.

Your voip based 911 is less reliable than my cell based 911.
You can lose it through power outage/internet outage.
My cell based 911 needs no extra power and has no need for internet.

Let bigones be bigones, if you want to pay for 911 then do so.
Not all individuals benefit from paying for 911.
Many of us are healthy.
With the text to 911 service now becoming available nationwide, you could setup a cell phone to send a text with your address with a single press.

dircom

Being healthy has nothing to do with 911.  Have you ever heard of accidents?

Crow550

#76
Holly crap. All I said is not all voip providers have to offer 911.

Which is usually okay as you can get the service separate from another provider or if you have a cell phone (make sure it has GPS) that gets signal but does not need service. It will legally make 911 calls. Or use a provider that has it included.

Leave it up to people on if they want to use a Cell phone or a Landline for 911. Both have ups and downs and has a chance to fail in an emergency.  

Take the 911 discussion to another thread. Quit thread crapping here.

Crow550

#77
Quote from: 7Priest7 on May 20, 2014, 06:23:15 PM
Quote from: Crow550 on May 20, 2014, 04:57:54 PM
Take the 911 discussion to another thread. Quit thread crapping here.
The irony of creating a post that does exactly what you seek to stop.

Five days later and google voice still working on obi devices.
All the pre-planning for nothing.

Quote from: dircom on May 20, 2014, 04:06:26 PM
Being healthy has nothing to do with 911.  Have you ever heard of accidents?
If you have accidents inside your own home, you are not healthy.

LOL! Yeah I just made a correction to someones post.

Eh I guess it doesn't matter since there is 5 other threads on this....

mo832

Quote from: 7Priest7 on May 20, 2014, 06:23:15 PM

If you have accidents inside your own home, you are not healthy.


False. He didn't say anyone "had" accidents. He just said "accidents". As in "happen". There could be an accidental event that occurs inside your home (slip and fall, object falls on you, electrical fire, kitchen accident, you accidentally cut your hand while cooking or using tools, etc.) that has nothing to do with health. Or events that occur outside your home that affect the inside of your home. And even olympic athletes in flawless physical shape have accidents or are the victims of accidents.

Just saying...

Crow550

On the main topic. I was using GrooveIP on my phone. <-- Didn't update it.

Anyways the other end could not hear my voice. Others are reporting this issue too. <-- Not just with GrooveIP.

So maybe this is happening in groups. Just sayin.