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[YASH]

 ^^^   Thx folks.
First of all, thx for yr kind co-operation and help.

Honestly, I do not have any smart phone.
But I have created two sip accounts,  as you mentioned with two diff e-mails, ( numeral digits )
One for myself ( OBI piece ) here in  USA
Other for my relative in India, who carries Samsung S5.

Please advise for the next to do. Thx.

[YASH]

i am dialing  to a cell in India ( from USA ) via **9 and it's 9 digit ID code of the other end,...


the errror is  coming,..---

Was rejected by the provider - reason 404

That error suggest to me that the Obion app may not have been running on his phone at the time you made the call.  The recommendation by azrobert might be best at this point.  I don't think Obihai is going to update the Obion app anytime soon.

In fact, all steps were executed, just like you had mentioned in your previous posts, here.

I tried calling 6-8 times, and it was coming up, with the same error.

And,  he could even called me, very first time ( from his Samsung S5 ) and I could talk for 1-2 sentences  and then suddenly it disconnected and thereafter the voice went on being muted,.. n' all disorders,..etc.,  for all later attempts from his side and it did not work out.

[dircom]

Does your friend have internet service?
if so why don't you send him an Obi?

[YASH]

^^ I had also done last time for him, (  for making an account for him, if you had read few posts here )  as he is an olderly person and not much computer literate, not knows what is OBI and what I have here as a device,.... or no nothing.
More he finds it bother-some n' complicated, he may quit and won't go for it.

I am just trying to make his life easier, and once it's all set and established,.. it will work forever.

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He and me call each other once in  a month hardly, and hence even by sending an OBI,  ( in fact, I have two OBI200 new pieces  recently bought )hence he would not prefer to do wiring by finding an extra Ethernet connection port in his router/modem ( he may have it or not )  and placing one extra phone on the table just for me, for calling hardly once in  a month,  or  getting that phone as well as the piece been plugged to the electricity  (24/7) by using the pin voltage converter extensions..etc, also  as you know in the East, the rooms and places are crowded, congested and electric points are  8 feet up the floor  and only at  one place in a room, so  he would never get that wire hanging for the power for that piece and the phone, just for me  who is not  even a frequent caller,..... etc.   So, these are the problems there,.. ! I guess, if you had lived there, you'd understood quickly.

[azrobert]

OBi2xx:
Service Providers -> ITSP Profile D SIP -> ProxyServer: sip2sip.info
Service Providers -> ITSP Profile D SIP -> X_DnsSrvAutoPrefix: Checked
Voice Services -> SP4 Service -> AuthUserName: The numeric portion of your Sip2Sip UserID
Voice Services -> SP4 Service -> AuthPassword: Your Sip2Sip PW
Voice Services -> SP4 Service -> X_ServProvProfile: D

Check SP4 to see if it registers to Sip2Sip
Status -> System Status -> SP4 Service Status

SmartPhone:
Install Zoiper IAX SIP VOIP Softphone
When you start Zoiper you will get message "Get Zoiper Gold"
Select Cancel
Click Config
Click Add Account
Message "Do you already have an account?"
Reply - Yes
Select Manual Configuration
Select SIP
Account Name: Sip2Sip
Host: sip2sip.info
UserName: Numeric portion of your 2nd UserID
Password: your 2nd password
Save
If it registers, there will be a green check next to the account
Hit Back on the phone
Select Dialer

On the OBi2xx dial **412345678
Change 12345678 to the smartphone's Sip2Sip account number

On the smartphone's Zoiper dialpad dial 87654321
Change 87654321 to the OBixxx's Sip2Sip account number
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If you have a Windows PC, you can test the setup with the Phonerlite softphone
Download and install:
http://www.phoner.de/PhonerLiteSetup.exe
When you start Phonerlite I think a wizard will popup because no accounts are defined.
Proxy: sip2sip.info
Click right arrow.
User Name: (The numeric portion of the 2nd Sip2Sip UserID)
Password: 2nd Sip2Sip account PW
Click right arrow.
Change Profile Name: Sip2Sip
Click check mark
You should have a green circle indicating you are registered.
Dial the OBi's Sip2Sip UserID and click the green phone symbol.
Click red phone symbol to hang up.
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If your friend/relative is that computer illiterate, will he be able to install a softphone and configure it?

[YASH]

^
^ Pardon me sir, but I do not understand a single thing here.

For my OBI piece at present,..OBI202, my service provider is Google voice.

Would you please tell me step by step,
which website to go and what steps to do for me and him.

I dunno' understand any  of the technical terms and data from the above.

[azrobert]

Do you understand installing the Phonerlite softphone on your PC?
Can you start there?
Click on the link I provided in my last post.
You PC will ask for permission to install the softphone.

I wrote the following before I saw your last post:
I believe the person in India has a Laptop. Maybe it would be easier for him to install the Phonerlite softphone on the Laptop. You can also follow the his setup on your PC.

[YASH]

Do you understand installing the Phonerlite softphone on your PC?
Can you start there?
Click on the link I provided in my last post.
You PC will ask for permission to install the softphone.

I wrote the following before I saw your last post:
I believe the person in India has a Laptop. Maybe it would be easier for him to install the Phonerlite softphone on the Laptop. You can also follow the his setup on your PC.

Sir, I want to make sure that this will not wipe out / interfere with my current google voice account and its set up, in any case,
as it's working totally fine.
[ BTW, are we talking about the setup which has nothing  to do with obi device ?,.. like any third party software?  ]

The guy in India has laptop/PC and Samsung S5 and his grandson who occasionally can   help him for any intelli. Work. My intent is to make his life and instructions-work as simpler as I can, or he would give up.

I thought, we are talking about making an icon on his Samsung
so that he and me can talk free of charge, and without any mic / speaker phone,.. etc

Ok,. anyway,....I just downloaded the software  ( red circular phone symbol – PhonerLite ) and by opening it, in a bottom line it shows a green circle with   my e-mail of sip2sip, showing as registered.

What next ?  Pl.

[azrobert]

I will be leaving soon and don't have time to help you now. I will be back around 3:30PST. If someone wants to chime in and help the OP with OBi Expert, please do.

[azrobert]

I'm back early and have a little time before my 2:30 appointment.
The following assumes SP4 is currently not used.

Log into OBiTalk
From the OBiTalk dashboard click Edit Profile on the left column.
At the bottom of the page check "Enable Obi Expert..."
Click Submit Query.
Now you can go directly to OBi Expert from the dashboard.

Click OBi Dashboard.
On the right of your OBi2xx is an icon with a red E.
Click on it to enter OBi Expert.

To navigate click on the titles with the +
Then click on a sub-title
Click on Service Providers
Then click ITSP Profile D SIP
The 1st parm listed is ProxyServer
There are 2 boxes to the right
To change the setting uncheck the box under OBiTalk Setting
Then uncheck the box under Device Default
Copy the value I posted in my Reply#64 and paste it into the empty space
Now find X_DnsSrvAutoPrefix
Uncheck both boxes on the right.
Click the box next to the parm to check it
Click Submit at the bottom of the page.
OBiTalk will download the configuration changes to the OBi and reboot it.
Wait until this process is complete before continuing to the next page.
The left and right LED on the OBI will be solid green.

Now click on Service Providers then click on SP4 Service
Use the same procedure as above to change the other setting listed in my Reply#64
After you Submit and the OBi reboots again:
Click on Status then click on System Status
Scroll down to SP4 Service Status
It should show SP4 Registered

On the OBi2xx dial **412345678
Change 12345678 to the 2nd Sip2Sip account number
To answer on Phonerlite click the green phone icon
To hangup click the red icon

On the Phonerlite dial 87654321 and click the green phone icon
Change 87654321 to the OBi2xx's Sip2Sip account number
Answer the call on the OBi

I gave you instructions to install Phonerlite on a PC and Zoiper on an Android.
Your friend in India can use either or both.

[YASH]

duplicate -
Read below post, pl.
Blue are my  comments.

[YASH]

I'm back early and have a little time before my 2:30 appointment.
The following assumes SP4 is currently not used.

Log into OBiTalk
From the OBiTalk dashboard click Edit Profile on the left column.
At the bottom of the page check "Enable Obi Expert..."
Click Submit Query.
Now you can go directly to OBi Expert from the dashboard.

Click OBi Dashboard.
On the right of your OBi2xx is an icon with a red E.
Click on it to enter OBi Expert.

To navigate click on the titles with the +
Then click on a sub-title
Click on Service Providers
Then click ITSP Profile D SIP
The 1st parm listed is ProxyServer
There are 2 boxes to the right
To change the setting uncheck the box under OBiTalk Setting
Then uncheck the box under Device Default
Copy the value I posted in my Reply#64 and paste it into the empty space
Now find X_DnsSrvAutoPrefix
Uncheck both boxes on the right.
Click the box next to the parm to check it
Click Submit at the bottom of the page.
OBiTalk will download the configuration changes to the OBi and reboot it.
Wait until this process is complete before continuing to the next page.
The left and right LED on the OBI will be solid green.

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^^ I did  upto here,.... and  two red colors exclaimation marks showed up, next to the changes in those two lines.

also, on top of page,.. this message came,..

"Successfully saved OBi Expert config to OBiTALK."

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Now click on Service Providers then click on SP4 Service  ( Where? there is no SP4 service in that column, you mean,.. click on " voice service " ? Ok... I did there.  )
Use the same procedure as above to change the other setting listed in my Reply#64
After you Submit and the OBi reboots again:
Click on Status then click on System Status
Scroll down to SP4 Service Status
It should show SP4 Registered
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It shows like this :
Registered (server=81.23.228.150:5060; expire in 51s)(UAP:5063)

Sir,..You did not tell me anywhere, about
what tic marks to put it back, the way it was initially, or what !! Is it OK?
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On the OBi2xx dial **412345678
Change 12345678 to the 2nd Sip2Sip account number

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what do you mean by 2nd sip2sip acount number? ( my numeric digits before " @sip2sip.info "  ?

If I dial on my  regular OBI phone, it says,." the number you dialed **4abcdefgh is rejected by service provider, the reason is  404 "

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To answer on Phonerlite click the green phone icon
To hangup click the red icon
____________________

Answer whom and dial to whom? I don't know what I am doing
and to whom I am dialing and on which number !!!!! Don't understand anything.

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On the Phonerlite dial 87654321 and click the green phone icon
Change 87654321 to the OBi2xx's Sip2Sip account number
Answer the call on the OBi

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^^ Confused. I don't know even what I am doing and to whom I am dialing and where and how.
By dialing on phonerlite, it opens a dialogue box showing application error and  then quickly  closes  the "phoner lite" main  dialogue box and everything.


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I gave you instructions to install Phonerlite on a PC and Zoiper on an Android.

^^ Why i need phoner lite? Can't I dial by my OBI phone, you mean?


Your friend in India can use either or both.

^^ Confused. Are we excercising here PC to PC talk? I have no idea what we are doing here, totally confused.

[azrobert]

The red exclamation mark means the value is not the default.

I said:

Now click on Service Providers then click on SP4 Service

I meant to say:
Now click on Voice Services then click on SP4 Service

You got SP4 registered to Sip2Sip, so you must have found the correct place to add the settings. Correct?

Both the OBi and Phonerlite are registered to Sip2Sip.
This is good.

When dialing from the OBi, you are calling the Phonerlite app.
Dial **4 followed by the number used as UserName in the Phonerlite setup.
The Phonerlite app should start ringing.
You answer the call by clicking on the green phone icon.
To end the call click on the red phone icon.

When dialing from the Phonerlite, you are calling the phone attached to the OBi.
Dial the number used as AuthUserName in the SP4 setup then click the green phone icon.
The OBi phone should start ringing.

The 404 error is not good.
This is a Not Found error, so Sip2Sip could not find the account number you dialed.

You said:

By dialing on phonerlite, it opens a dialogue box showing application error and  then quickly  closes  the "phoner lite" main  dialogue box and everything.

This is not good. This is probably why you are getting the 404 error.
Start the Phonerlite app again.
At the bottom of the Phonerlite window, is the circle solid green and does it say Registered?
Please click on the Logbook tab.
Does it show any error message?

What Windows operating system do you have on your PC?

[YASH]

First I thank you for bearing with me, so patiently.


The red exclamation mark means the value is not the default.

I think, I did not put the tic marks back at any places, where it should be,
and also after "submit" button being pressed, I instantly got the message on top of page, and it did not hit thro the piece and taking time with going thro' red lights or any such,.....
So, my guess is, nthg had been established any properly.

I said:

Now click on Service Providers then click on SP4 Service

I meant to say:
Now click on Voice Services then click on SP4 Service

Ok, that's what I did

You got SP4 registered to Sip2Sip, so you must have found the correct place to add the settings. Correct?

I doubt, nthg has been established properly, yet.

Both the OBi and Phonerlite are registered to Sip2Sip.
This is good.

But with errors and not properly, that's what I think

When dialing from the OBi, you are calling the Phonerlite app.
Dial **4 followed by the number used as UserName in the Phonerlite setup.
The Phonerlite app should start ringing.

It does not ring, but speaks the same error.

You answer the call by clicking on the green phone icon.
To end the call click on the red phone icon.

When dialing from the Phonerlite, you are calling the phone attached to the OBi.
Dial the number used as AuthUserName in the SP4 setup then click the green phone icon.
The OBi phone should start ringing.

It does not ring, but speaks the same error.

The 404 error is not good.
This is a Not Found error, so Sip2Sip could not find the account number you dialed.

You said:

By dialing on phonerlite, it opens a dialogue box showing application error and  then quickly  closes  the "phoner lite" main  dialogue box and everything.

This is not good. This is probably why you are getting the 404 error.
Start the Phonerlite app again.
At the bottom of the Phonerlite window, is the circle solid green and does it say Registered?

Yes it does.

Please click on the Logbook tab.
Does it show any error message?

user not found
486:busy here

What Windows operating system do you have on your PC?

Windows XP with SP3  and latest Mozilla  Firefox 37.0 updated version
and runs all good, opens all pages/photos/videos/ and anything n' everything without any old browser issues.

[YASH]

I'm back early and have a little time before my 2:30 appointment.
The following assumes SP4 is currently not used.

Log into OBiTalk
From the OBiTalk dashboard click Edit Profile on the left column.
At the bottom of the page check "Enable Obi Expert..."
Click Submit Query.
Now you can go directly to OBi Expert from the dashboard.

Click OBi Dashboard.
On the right of your OBi2xx is an icon with a red E.
Click on it to enter OBi Expert.

To navigate click on the titles with the +
Then click on a sub-title
Click on Service Providers
Then click ITSP Profile D SIP
The 1st parm listed is ProxyServer
There are 2 boxes to the right
To change the setting uncheck the box under OBiTalk Setting
Then uncheck the box under Device Default
Copy the value I posted in my Reply#64 and paste it into the empty space
Now find X_DnsSrvAutoPrefix
Uncheck both boxes on the right.
Click the box next to the parm to check it
Click Submit at the bottom of the page.
OBiTalk will download the configuration changes to the OBi and reboot it.
Wait until this process is complete before continuing to the next page.
The left and right LED on the OBI will be solid green.

Now click on Service Providers then click on SP4 Service
Use the same procedure as above to change the other setting listed in my Reply#64
After you Submit and the OBi reboots again:
Click on Status then click on System Status
Scroll down to SP4 Service Status
It should show SP4 Registered

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^^ After doing all of the above steps, properly upto here
and then going back to my dashboard,
over there,
it does not show my SP4 registered, there. Why?
it shows, "not configured" in grey color,..

____________________

On the OBi2xx dial **412345678
Change 12345678 to the 2nd Sip2Sip account number
To answer on Phonerlite click the green phone icon
To hangup click the red icon

On the Phonerlite dial 87654321 and click the green phone icon
Change 87654321 to the OBi2xx's Sip2Sip account number
Answer the call on the OBi

I gave you instructions to install Phonerlite on a PC and Zoiper on an Android.
Your friend in India can use either or both.

[azrobert]

In OBi Expert navigate to the settings you tried to change.
The default value will be displayed for the setting.
Unchecking the box under OBiTalk will reveal the change you made.

If everything looks good, check the SP4 Status again.
Again, is it registered?

Another thing you could do is check the OBi History.
To access Call History:
Log directly into the OBi using the local interface.
Key the IP address of the OBi into a Web Browser.
If you don't know the IP address dial ***1 from the OBi Phone.
An IVR message will tell you the IP address.
The IP address will be something like 192.168.1.100

Hit Enter
The UserID and default Password are both "admin".
Click Status on the left column.
Then click Call History.

The entry for the call should look like this:
"To SP4(12345678)"

I'm using a Windows 7 machine and an OBi110.
I also have an OBi200, but I don't want to mess with it.
I have 2 Sip2Sip accounts.
My accounts have alphabetic UserIDs.
You can use a keyboard with the Phonerlite softphone, so I can call an alphabetic UserID.
On the OBi110 I setup a speed dial to call the Phonerlite's alphabetic UserID.
Calls work both ways with my setup.

I do have an XP SP3 machine.
I will try Phonerlite on it tomorrow.

[azrobert]

I don't think the dashboard displays the correct status when you manually configure a provider.

The SP4 Status on the System Status page is what counts.

[YASH]

In OBi Expert navigate to the settings you tried to change.
The default value will be displayed for the setting.
Unchecking the box under OBiTalk will reveal the change you made.

If everything looks good, check the SP4 Status again.
Again, is it registered?

Status and system status shows this :
   Registered (server=81.23.228.150:5060; expire in 44s)(UAP:5063)

Another thing you could do is check the OBi History.
To access Call History:
Log directly into the OBi using the local interface.
Key the IP address of the OBi into a Web Browser.
If you don't know the IP address dial ***1 from the OBi Phone.
An IVR message will tell you the IP address.
The IP address will be something like 192.168.1.100

Mine is 192.168.1.X
and typing in url, it says  requested url was not found . I have obi 202, with two phone nos  and two lines

Hit Enter
The UserID and default Password are both "admin".
Click Status on the left column.
Then click Call History.

The entry for the call should look like this:
"To SP4(12345678)"

I'm using a Windows 7 machine and an OBi110.
I also have an OBi200, but I don't want to mess with it.
I have 2 Sip2Sip accounts.
My accounts have alphabetic UserIDs.
You can use a keyboard with the Phonerlite softphone, so I can call an alphabetic UserID.
On the OBi110 I setup a speed dial to call the Phonerlite's alphabetic UserID.
Calls work both ways with my setup.

I do have an XP SP3 machine.
I will try Phonerlite on it tomorrow.

It seems it's not worth of these much headache,...
OBI should have their Reps who can take control of your computer and can get/fix in just seconds,...  Months ago, a lady from OBI was on phone with me, and she had set up all features from her's end, for my OBi202 accounts, but now they do not answer any phone, unless they call you.
BTW, how many fellows here on chat board are   OBI's own Reps?    Can they call you if you request them?
Because,  even if my side is set,  to my relatives there in India  they can not spend this much time, pain and headaches,.. for installing and settings,...they rather spend  8 cents  a minute when needed to call once in    a month, but can never take these much headache of  installation and settings.  Not worth.

[YASH]

 I deleted that phoner lite software,..


I think, nthg is working out,..

neither  that calling from the OBI website by mic and headphone,.
nor using the WebRTC application of Obion
nor, that third party phoner lite software

[YASH]

   My relative in India has  now, recently bought this new Cell phone,...

Lenovo A6000 - Lenovo cell phone

http://mobilesreview.co.in/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/lenovo-a6000-smartphone-release-date.jpeg

I am in USA,  and having with 3 obihai devices,..

Two  OBI 200 devices and one Obi202 ( using Google voice )

I want to establish "to and fro" calls  from that Indian  Cell phone to my OBI devices in  USA, phone. ( for free and unlimited )

Can anyone please advise me step by step web application  and installation procedure...so that, My relatives can  establish an icon on his cell and
We can talk each other via    Obi Ids to Ids for free and unlimited,.. [ using WebRTC applications ]

I will highly appreciate it,  if this could be established. Pl. advise me.

Is there, any updated advanced software available ( By OBIHAI or any third party ) for this yet ? 
Please advise me,  as I need it very badly.

Thanks.