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Region Specific Technical / Service Provider Support => North America - Including Google Voice, Skype, etc. => Topic started by: cheri on June 19, 2018, 10:51:39 PM

Title: which product works with no router or modem
Post by: cheri on June 19, 2018, 10:51:39 PM
Hello, hope this is in the right section. I have been forced to go with wifi only at my apartment. They took my modem away yesterday. I am not allowed to use a router. I can use OBi devices if i register them with my new wifi service. My question is, which OBi product should i buy that will work with google voice and plug directly into the one ethernet wall port they have allowed me?  I used to have the OBi100 plugged into my router, with my google voice number, and land line phones.  It was amazing and worked for years.  I know i can't use the OBi100 anymore, and now i have no router or modem.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated as to which product will work for me.
Title: Re: which product works with no router or modem
Post by: dircom on June 20, 2018, 06:22:30 AM
Are you on house arrest?
the obi100 can still work using some Simonics GVGW
Title: Re: which product works with no router or modem
Post by: cheri on June 20, 2018, 06:45:59 AM
Oh, don't get me started on this apartment complex.  I will deal with them and their communism when my lease is up and i am out of here.  Unfortunately, wifi packages with no opting out is getting popular all over the county i live in.

I have Simonics, and it was a blessing all this time, but no longer seems to be working.  :-(

Thank you so much for the reply. 
Title: Re: which product works with no router or modem
Post by: dircom on June 20, 2018, 06:52:14 AM
You're a little confused - that's not communism, it's Capitalism as in free market, free to _ _ _ _ you over if there are no competitors.

are you on the Simonics Beta?
https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r31966059-Google-Voice-Gateway-beta-test-for-SIP-interop

Title: Re: which product works with no router or modem
Post by: cheri on June 20, 2018, 07:45:19 AM
LOL, I actually have no problem with capitalism, and a company has the right to do what they want, but not until the current lease, or contract has ended.  And we do have several choices where i live, but i guess apartment complexes can take my choices away.

I paid for Simonics last year, so i don't think i am on Beta, if that is what you mean?
Title: Re: which product works with no router or modem
Post by: Sheffield_Steve on June 20, 2018, 08:17:37 AM
If as you say you have an Ethernet jack available to you, why can't you use a router? 
Title: Re: which product works with no router or modem
Post by: cheri on June 20, 2018, 08:21:18 AM
they said it's against the terms as it would interfere with our neighbors wifi experience.
Title: Re: which product works with no router or modem
Post by: dircom on June 20, 2018, 08:29:58 AM
Actually a lot of Capitalism is not really capitalism, .... like a coal plant externalizing their costs, by dumping mercury into the air.  They aren't paying for that cost - their are making everyone else pay for it downwind, and those who eat the mercury laden fish etc.

Go to the link I provided, and find the beta settings... change the settings on your dashboard
it should work
Title: Re: which product works with no router or modem
Post by: cheri on June 20, 2018, 09:09:57 AM
Agreed, capitalism at the hands of the wrong people just like anything else gets intertwined with greed and selfish acts, and ruins it for everyone else.

I tried the link, did what it said. Now i am showing offline in my obi dashboard.  OBi100 is blinking green.  I have a dial tone but get a message that it can't connect to the service provider when calling out.  So, i guess i am back on the phone with spectrum to see why my port is not working?? 

Seems to me that's where the trouble is, and not surprised. 

I do thank you for all the help and advice.  Going to stick a laptop in the port to see what happens, and go from there.
Title: Re: which product works with no router or modem
Post by: dircom on June 20, 2018, 09:18:27 AM
Yes, check your hardwired ethernet jack.  In a dorm room for example they had to enable the jack in my son's room.  But you started I think by saying you only have wi-fi.  You mentioned something about registering the device. Perhaps you have to give the apartment people the mac address?
Title: Re: which product works with no router or modem
Post by: cheri on June 20, 2018, 09:39:28 AM
i have the obi mac address registered, and just tried 3 different ethernet cords to a laptop, nothing.  Calling them now.  Sorry i had you looking for solutions when of course they did not leave me with a working port like they said they would. 

Thank you for all the help, and so sorry for wasting your time.  :-)  I might be back, because now i am beta and not sure how that works.
Title: Re: which product works with no router or modem
Post by: drgeoff on June 20, 2018, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: cheri on June 20, 2018, 08:21:18 AM
they said it's against the terms as it would interfere with our neighbors wifi experience.
More likely they mean you cannot have a router which incorporates a Wi-Fi Access Point - commonly referred to as a "Wi-Fi router" but as almost all current home routers do have Wi-Fi the "Wi-Fi" part of the name is increasingly omitted.

If that is indeed the restriction there are some possibilities.

1. If you have a working ethernet socket, hang a router on that. If it is a Wi-Fi router, disable its Wi-Fi.

2. Use a Wi-Fi to ethernet adapter to get a working ethernet socket then proceed as above.

3. If you have or get a Wi-Fi router which can be flashed with alternative firmware such as OpenWRT, DD-WRT etc do that and configure it as the equivalent of both the adaptor and router in 2.

Note that in all 3 cases, devices wired to the router will be double-NATed but I have not found that to be a problem in most cases.
Title: Re: which product works with no router or modem
Post by: cheri on June 25, 2018, 02:09:51 AM
My obi100 is working!  They activated the wall port, had to wait for the apartment complex to give permission, once that happened, it was activated and now i can use my home phone again!!  Thank you to all who helped and gave advice.  And whoever Simon is, thank you for providing your services at such a bargain price!! 
Title: Re: which product works with no router or modem
Post by: Sheffield_Steve on June 25, 2018, 08:42:04 AM
Excellent news.

If you have the OBi100 plugged directly into the wall jack then you are open to abuse. 

If so, I strongly suggest you put a basic router (with no Wifi) between the OBi100 and the Ethernet jack.
Title: Re: which product works with no router or modem
Post by: cheri on June 25, 2018, 09:36:10 AM
What do you mean by abuse?