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General Support => Day-to-Day Use => Topic started by: Robert.Thompson on February 01, 2012, 03:42:13 PM

Title: I have succeeded in my OBi / VoIP.ms setup but what is SIP and do I need it?
Post by: Robert.Thompson on February 01, 2012, 03:42:13 PM
Hello:

What is the purpose of SIP or having a SIP account?

Thanks,
Title: Re: I have succeeded in my OBi / VoIP.ms setup but what is SIP and do I need it?
Post by: RonR on February 01, 2012, 04:21:31 PM
SIP (Session Initiation Protocol) is probably the most widely used standardized protocol in use for VoIP.  Countless SIP based VoIP providers are available offering a wide range of services, prices, and quality.

While Google Voice is attractive to many at the moment because it's free for US calls, Google Voice does not offer 911 service whereas many SIP based VoIP providers do.  Some VoIP providers offer better international calling rates than Google Voice.  Google Voice offers next to no support.

Google Voice is the relative new kid in the VoIP arena and uses a non-standard (XMPP) protocol.  The OBi is the only hardware based solution supporting Google Voice.
Title: Re: I have succeeded in my OBi / VoIP.ms setup but what is SIP and do I need it?
Post by: Ostracus on February 01, 2012, 04:55:42 PM
Quote from: RonR on February 01, 2012, 04:21:31 PM
Google Voice is the relative new kid in the VoIP arena and uses a non-standard (XMPP) protocol.

I assume by that statement they've deviated from this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP)?
Title: Re: I have succeeded in my OBi / VoIP.ms setup but what is SIP and do I need it?
Post by: RonR on February 01, 2012, 05:18:50 PM
Quote from: Ostracus on February 01, 2012, 04:55:42 PM
Quote from: RonR on February 01, 2012, 04:21:31 PM
Google Voice is the relative new kid in the VoIP arena and uses a non-standard (XMPP) protocol.

I assume by that statement they've deviated from this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP)?

Maybe my phrasing was incomplete.  I meant non-insdustry-standard VoIP protocol (XMPP).
Title: Re: I have succeeded in my OBi / VoIP.ms setup but what is SIP and do I need it?
Post by: Stewart on February 01, 2012, 05:29:38 PM
Though not in voiolation of any standard, Google chose a subset of options that preclude sending the audio stream directly to the more than 100,000,000 IP phones and ATAs (other than OBi) presently deployed.  Any gateway must proxy the audio, which IMO makes "Gingle" a very undesirable protocol.  See http://sipsorcery.wordpress.com/2011/07/27/jingle-adventures-contd/ .
Title: Re: I have succeeded in my OBi / VoIP.ms setup but what is SIP and do I need it?
Post by: Robert.Thompson on February 01, 2012, 05:34:05 PM
Quote from: RonR on February 01, 2012, 04:21:31 PM
SIP (Session Initiation Protocol) is probably the most widely used standardized protocol in use for VoIP.  Countless SIP based VoIP providers are available offering a wide range of services, prices, and quality.

While Google Voice is attractive to many at the moment because it's free for US calls, Google Voice does not offer 911 service whereas many SIP based VoIP providers do.  Some VoIP providers offer better international calling rates than Google Voice.  Google Voice offers next to no support.

Google Voice is the relative new kid in the VoIP arena and uses a non-standard (XMPP) protocol.  The OBi is the only hardware based solution supporting Google Voice.


Does this mean that the term 'SIP account' is used inter-changeably for the term 'VOIP account' such as my VoIP.ms account?

Thanks,
Title: Re: I have succeeded in my OBi / VoIP.ms setup but what is SIP and do I need it?
Post by: RonR on February 01, 2012, 05:36:52 PM
Quote from: Robert.Thompson on February 01, 2012, 05:34:05 PM
Does this mean that the term 'SIP account' is used inter-changeably for the term 'VOIP account' such as my VoIP.ms account?

Pretty much.