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General Support => Day-to-Day Use => Topic started by: Robert.Thompson on February 21, 2012, 08:58:15 AM

Title: [S]Can someone explain the significance of these 'traceroutes' ?
Post by: Robert.Thompson on February 21, 2012, 08:58:15 AM
Hello:

My PC is in Montreal, Quebec Canada.

Is one of these VOIP servers better than the other for me to use?

If so, why?

Voip.ms # 1:
67.205.74.164 is from Canada(CA) in region North America
TraceRoute to 67.205.74.164 [montreal.voip.ms]
Hop   (ms)   (ms)   (ms)           IP Address   Host name
1      1      1      2         8.9.232.73    xe-5-3-0.edge3.dallas1.level3.net  
2      2      3      1         4.69.145.190    vlan80.csw3.dallas1.level3.net  
3      0      0      0         4.69.151.150    ae-81-81.ebr1.dallas1.level3.net  
4      24      24      24         4.69.151.117    ae-14-14.ebr2.chicago2.level3.net  
5      28      24      24         4.69.132.113    ae-1-100.ebr1.chicago2.level3.net  
6      19      20      21         4.69.140.189    ae-6-6.ebr1.chicago1.level3.net  
7      40      40      40         4.69.153.86    ae-10-10.car2.montreal2.level3.net  
8      58      257      248         4.69.141.2    ae-11-11.car1.montreal2.level3.net  
9      41      41      41         4.59.176.10    te6-2.cl-core05.level3.mtl.iweb.com  
10      40      42      40         67.205.74.164    ip-67-205-74-164.static.privatedns.com  
Trace complete

Voip.ms # 2:
174.142.75.171 is from Canada(CA) in region North America
TraceRoute to 174.142.75.171 [montreal2.voip.ms]
Hop   (ms)   (ms)   (ms)           IP Address   Host name
1      0      0      0         8.9.232.73    xe-5-3-0.edge3.dallas1.level3.net  
2      0      0      0         4.69.145.62    vlan60.csw1.dallas1.level3.net  
3      0      0      0         4.69.151.126    ae-61-61.ebr1.dallas1.level3.net  
4      19      19      19         4.69.151.117    ae-14-14.ebr2.chicago2.level3.net  
5      22      24      24         4.69.132.113    ae-1-100.ebr1.chicago2.level3.net  
6      19      22      24         4.69.140.189    ae-6-6.ebr1.chicago1.level3.net  
7      Timed out      190      211         4.69.153.86    ae-10-10.car2.montreal2.level3.net  
8      40      40      40         4.69.141.2    ae-11-11.car1.montreal2.level3.net  
9      41      41      44         4.59.176.10    te6-2.cl-core05.level3.mtl.iweb.com  
10      40      65      40         67.205.127.126    te8-2.v0708.cl-car08.mtl.iweb.com  
11      41      40      41         174.142.75.171    montreal.voip.ms  
Trace complete

Anveo # 1:
67.212.84.21 is from Canada(CA) in region North America
TraceRoute to 67.212.84.21 [sip.ca.anveo.com]
Hop   (ms)   (ms)   (ms)           IP Address   Host name
1      0      0      0         8.9.232.73    xe-5-3-0.edge3.dallas1.level3.net  
2      0      0      0         4.69.145.254    vlan90.csw4.dallas1.level3.net  
3      0      2      0         4.69.151.162    ae-91-91.ebr1.dallas1.level3.net  
4      24      24      24         4.69.151.117    ae-14-14.ebr2.chicago2.level3.net  
5      25      24      25         4.69.132.113    ae-1-100.ebr1.chicago2.level3.net  
6      19      21      24         4.69.140.189    ae-6-6.ebr1.chicago1.level3.net  
7      40      40      40         4.69.153.86    ae-10-10.car2.montreal2.level3.net  
8      40      40      40         4.59.178.6    nhs.car2.montreal2.level3.net  
9      42      42      43         209.44.125.162     -  
10      40      40      40         67.212.84.21     -  
Trace complete

Anveo # 2:
72.9.149.69 is from United States(US) in region North America
TraceRoute to 72.9.149.69 [sip.anveo.com]
Hop   (ms)   (ms)   (ms)           IP Address   Host name
1      0      0      0         72.9.149.69    69.prd1.tms.anveo.com  
Trace complete

Thanks,
Title: Re: Can someone explain the significance of these 'traceroutes' ?
Post by: lk96 on February 21, 2012, 09:50:47 AM
I'd suggest you run ping to the servers of interest and collect the measurements.
Traceroute measurements can be quirky and they tend to depend a lot on how
the corresponding ICMP traffic is prioritized and handled within routers in the path.

The one piece of info that traceroute can give you that may be useful is that number
of hops from your router to the voip server at the other end. In that respect
the Anveo #1 server seems to be going through fewer nodes. But the other
routes are not that far off anyway.

L.

PS: I think the last traceroute to Anveo #2 is incomplete.
Title: Re: Can someone explain the significance of these 'traceroutes' ?
Post by: lk96 on February 21, 2012, 09:54:56 AM
I should also point out that unless the SIP server/provider servers proxy your actual
voice traffic (RTP), the measurements you take may correspond only to SIP traffic (signaling traffic).
In other words, what you measured, it may not reflect the voice latency you will experience during calls.

L.
Title: Re: Can someone explain the significance of these 'traceroutes' ?
Post by: MB.. on March 01, 2012, 09:53:18 PM
I'm confused: your PC is in Montreal, QC pinging a server in Montreal, and the first host on your traceroute is in Dallas, Texas?

Are these pings actually being run from your PC, of from somewhere else?

Or are you perhaps connected to a VPN?

Title: Re: Can someone explain the significance of these 'traceroutes' ?
Post by: Robert.Thompson on March 02, 2012, 05:19:08 AM
Quote from: MB.. on March 01, 2012, 09:53:18 PM
I'm confused: your PC is in Montreal, QC pinging a server in Montreal, and the first host on your traceroute is in Dallas, Texas?

Are these pings actually being run from your PC, of from somewhere else?

Or are you perhaps connected to a VPN?



I was doing the traceroutes from a web site which provided that tool. I'm in Montreal but God knows where that web site is.

Isn't that how you do it?

Thanks,

Rob.
Title: Re: Can someone explain the significance of these 'traceroutes' ?
Post by: Stewart on March 02, 2012, 05:26:17 AM
From a command prompt (Windows), type e.g.
tracert montreal.voip.ms

On Mac or Linux, it's:
traceroute montreal.voip.ms
Title: Re: Can someone explain the significance of these 'traceroutes' ?
Post by: Robert.Thompson on March 02, 2012, 05:53:25 AM
Thanks Stewart, lk96 & MB..  :)

Sorry for being such a newbie at this stuff.

Rob.