Now that I'm signed up with Phone Power?
No more forwarding to "Google Chat"? Or do we still need that there for some reason.
No, you can remove Google Chat now that you have forwarding to PhonePower.
Thanks!
Quote from: N7AS on May 04, 2014, 02:41:41 PM
No, you can remove Google Chat now that you have forwarding to PhonePower.
Does that apply even if I still want GV to forward to my cellphone? Or can that be done with Phone Power, too? Or (sorry for all the choices) -- should I keep Chat checked to both forward to my cell AND take any incoming voicemail in GV? I prefer to keep Google voicemail and disable PP, if possible.
Thanks for the help!
The Google Chat "pseudo forwarding phone" was only used by Google Voice to send forwarded calls to the Google Chat system (and unintentionally, to third parties logged in as Chat clients, such as your OBi box).
Google Chat is obsolete, and it is being shut down on the 15th. The Chat entry on your forwarding phones list is now completely useless, and so it may be disabled and deleted. It has no interaction at all with any actual telephone numbers you list as forwarding phones.
Google Chat's successor product, Hangouts, works automatically as a forwarding destination, and it does not require an entry on your forwarding phones list.
Quote from: SteveInWA on May 05, 2014, 09:50:15 PM
Google Chat's successor product, Hangouts, works automatically as a forwarding destination, and it does not require an entry on your forwarding phones list.
Does that mean that from now on, anyone with a GV number will have calls to that number automatically ring in Hangouts in addition to any other forwarding numbers, even if you are not logged in, and even if you did not specifically enable this? Is there a way to disable or deselect this feature?
It means, that if you are logged into Hangouts on your computer, then yes, Hangouts will ring. If you don't want to use it, then don't log into it.
Some users have reported that it continues to ring anyway, even when logged out. That would be a Hangouts bug, if it were the case, and if that is happening to you, then you can discuss it over on the Hangouts forum.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!categories/hangouts
I'm glad to be rid of Google Chat saying that I'm supposedly "online" 24/7.
Quote from: SteveInWA on May 05, 2014, 09:50:15 PM
Google Chat is obsolete, and it is being shut down on the 15th. The Chat entry on your forwarding phones list is now completely useless, and so it may be disabled and deleted.
So SteveInWA, how does it feel to be completely and utterly wrong? You have been ranting and raving about this so called shutdown for MONTHS! And now here we are May 17th and guess what, It's all good in the hood! Google Chat still working and I STILL have FreeServiceForLife...
Quote from: FreeServiceForLife on May 17, 2014, 05:46:39 AM
Quote from: SteveInWA on May 05, 2014, 09:50:15 PM
Google Chat is obsolete, and it is being shut down on the 15th. The Chat entry on your forwarding phones list is now completely useless, and so it may be disabled and deleted.
So SteveInWA, how does it feel to be completely and utterly wrong? You have been ranting and raving about this so called shutdown for MONTHS! And now here we are May 17th and guess what, It's all good in the hood! Google Chat still working and I STILL have FreeServiceForLife...
Watch what you wish for dude cause if people like you continue to belabor the point you will f*ck it up for the rest of us. Me for one, I'm hoping it continues to work as it has with XMPP for the foreseeable future.
And leave Steve alone, he only gave out information based on what he was told. He's a volunteer for the Google Voice forum and from what I can see does his best to help out people.
Quote from: FreeServiceForLife on May 17, 2014, 05:46:39 AM
Quote from: SteveInWA on May 05, 2014, 09:50:15 PM
Google Chat is obsolete, and it is being shut down on the 15th. The Chat entry on your forwarding phones list is now completely useless, and so it may be disabled and deleted.
So SteveInWA, how does it feel to be completely and utterly wrong? You have been ranting and raving about this so called shutdown for MONTHS! And now here we are May 17th and guess what, It's all good in the hood! Google Chat still working and I STILL have FreeServiceForLife...
Chill out. It's only been two days. Steve can't predict the future. He's going by what he believes to be true.
Quote from: FreeServiceForLife on May 17, 2014, 05:46:39 AM
So SteveInWA, how does it feel to be completely and utterly wrong? You have been ranting and raving about this so called shutdown for MONTHS! And now here we are May 17th and guess what, It's all good in the hood! Google Chat still working and I STILL have FreeServiceForLife...
So, FreeServiceForLife, how does it feel to be completely and utterly without manners?
Quote from: MikePA on May 17, 2014, 02:25:26 PM
So, FreeServiceForLife, how does it feel to be completely and utterly without manners?
After listening to all the BS, Misinformed, Paid Shill Hucksters like Steve for MONTHS - MikePa, It feels Pretty F*cking Good!
@SteveinWa,
If we uncheck Google Chat as a forwarding phone, using instead another line to ring for incoming calls, can GV still be used from the Obi for outgoing calls with no configuration changes?
Or, is it required to have Google Chat checked for everything if you want to use it for any service?
Wow, people definitely have some attitude here... ::)
I am pretty sure XMPP will disappear one day, although probably not until they can finish migrating the Google Apps people to using the new Hangouts interface.
Let's do hope they don't shut it off though, but that's optimistic thinking...
Would someone like to address my question in response #13 above?
Quote from: mo832 on May 19, 2014, 07:44:36 AM
Would someone like to address my question in response #13 above?
Unchecking Forwards calls to: Google chat will prevent Google Voice from ringing your Obi directly. It will not prevent the ability to make outgoing Google Voice calls via that SP.
Quote from: gderf on May 19, 2014, 07:51:25 AM
Quote from: mo832 on May 19, 2014, 07:44:36 AM
Would someone like to address my question in response #13 above?
Unchecking Forwards calls to: Google chat will prevent Google Voice from ringing your Obi directly. It will not prevent the ability to make outgoing Google Voice calls via that SP.
Wait: you aren't SteveinWa. So you are not the one who can address reply 13. ;D
Quote from: Shale on May 19, 2014, 07:55:34 AM
Wait: you aren't SteveinWa. So you are not the one who can address reply 13. ;D
I knew someone would bring that up !
Quote from: gderf on May 19, 2014, 07:51:25 AM
Unchecking Forwards calls to: Google chat will prevent Google Voice from ringing your Obi directly. It will not prevent the ability to make outgoing Google Voice calls via that SP.
OK, so just to make sure, I can set my GV settings to ring incoming on Callcentric with full CNAM/CID, but uncheck the "forwards to Google Chat", and then still make outgoing calls thru GV as long as the Obi is registered to GV on that SP slot?
(and anyone can answer, including SteveinWA ;) )
Yes. Why don't you just try it?
Quote from: gderf on May 19, 2014, 09:24:40 AM
Yes. Why don't you just try it?
Good question.
The answer is along the lines of why some people are skeptical of accepting automatic updates to M$ software or Obi firmware. Now that we are past the XMPP "deadline" and it still works, I don't want to remove an option and find out that I am locked out for future use of the option.
I even thought about posting a comment on these forums about how it might be that whoever has GV set up on their Obi can keep it indefinitely, but new registrations will not be allowed.... so don't delete it if you want to use it. This is only speculation, but it could be imagined... sort of like a "grandfather" policy. I don't like to mess with a good thing :)
Making outbound calls has absolutely nothing to do with the settings you make on Google Voice. Period.
Quote from: jerryinforum on May 04, 2014, 01:37:34 PM
No more forwarding to "Google Chat"? Or do we still need that there for some reason.
Depends. I have GV forwarded to Phone Power. Works great. For the first few days I kept the Google Chat checked, and discovered that when someone called, my phone rang - but so did 'Chat' on my laptop when open. If I were out and about at a hot spot without my cell (PP forwards there, too), I could take those calls easily on my laptop using the mic. I've got it unchecked now, but if traveling would check it again.
I do not have a Google + =shudder= or Hangouts account. Ditto. :)
Quote from: gderf on May 19, 2014, 10:21:59 AM
Making outbound calls has absolutely nothing to do with the settings you make on Google Voice. Period.
I wouldn't say "period" without qualifying it.
If you make outgoing calls using the GV web interface, those settings do matter.
Quote from: mo832 on May 19, 2014, 02:21:15 PM
If you make outgoing calls using the GV web interface, those settings do matter.
That hasn't been my experience. In what way do those settings matter in regards to using the "GV web interface" when making outgoing calls?
Quote from: Taoman on May 19, 2014, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: mo832 on May 19, 2014, 02:21:15 PM
If you make outgoing calls using the GV web interface, those settings do matter.
That hasn't been my experience. In what way do those settings matter in regards to using the "GV web interface" when making outgoing calls?
The choice you make for which connection makes the call is dependent on those you have selected and chosen as allowable lines. GV will not let you use one of these before verifying it. That includes Google Chat. Then, you must actually choose which line to make the call, which is where it will ring you back.
And "making outgoing calls" is usually separate from GV altogether, assuming the phone you call from has no connection with GV. I agree with that. But if the outgoing phone IS Google Chat itself, it does have an association with Google and they are aware of each other.
I don't want us to get into a semantic debate, but I generally refrain from all-encompassing absolute statements. That's all :)
The other end can no longer hear me in GrooveIP <-- Didn't update it.
Others are starting to report this too. <-- Not all using GrooveIP.
So maybe this is happening in groups at a time?