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Title: OBi & Network & Homegroup - RESOLVED
Post by: Dravial on March 21, 2015, 12:28:08 PM
FYI:
OBi 202, upgraded firmware, windows 7 Pro and Ultimate on all connected computers using an Actiontec Router, which is utilizing both wireless and wired connections.
The Problem:
After fixing various problems with GV via using an @gmail.com account, everything was working fine, although to 'slip' the OBi into my environment as simply as possible, as my router had all 4 of its 4 wired ports filled, I utilized OBi's ability to be a pass through, I connected OBi to router via INTERNET port, and the desktop that was holding that port in the router I then plugged into the back of OBi's LAN port. This worked, after I got OBi all setup and had everything appearing to function properly, I went to the desktop to make sure it's network access was intact.
Well, it was half intact, I had internet access, and could open a browser and surf the web, but I could not see any of the other networked computers or access anything in my 'homegroup'. I attempted self repairs etc, and I even tried renaming the network connection (which had renamed itself to a default 'Network 3' inside network and sharing center) back to my original network name (I know this used to cause issues in XP...). Nothing worked. I tried rebooting the computer, because as we all know, half the time this allows the computer to make it's own adjustments...
After rebooting, the computer now has no network connection at all, and I can not even open the browser to a webpage or access anything on the network. The light for the LAN (middle light on OBi 202) on the front is now off, where it had been on and green before I rebooted the computer. The computer keeps bouncing between 'Identifying' and 'Not connected'...
OK, this was interesting, while I was typing this to you, I noticed the LAN light on OBi went green again, I noticed the afflicted computer had gone to sleep. I went and woke the computer up, and the LAN light on the OBi shut off again...
Does anyone know wth is going on, and if OBi will allow the use of homegroups, or I will have to settle for internet only if I port out from behind it?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: N7AS on March 21, 2015, 01:07:51 PM
It sounds like the the OBi202 put your computer on a different subnet. The best way if all your ports are used on your router is to purchase an 8 port switch. Connect the switch to one of your router ports and you will have 7 extra ports for your OBi202 and other devices. Then you can set your OBi202 to bridge mode. This is the way I set up my networks and works very well.


Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: drgeoff on March 21, 2015, 01:12:52 PM
The Obi202 can be configured in either router mode or bridge mode.  For your needs you want it in bridge mode. http://www.obihai.com/OBiDeviceAdminGuide#_Toc367543014

In bridge mode it functions as a 3 port ethernet switch.  One port is internal and is used by the VoIP telephony gubbins.  One external port connects to your router.  The other external port can be used to replace the port on the router that the OBi has occupied.

In router mode the OBi introduces a NAT between your main router (and all devices plugged in to it) and the device plugged in to the OBi.  That NAT (with a different IP subnet) is why you cannot communicate between that latter device and the others.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: Dravial on March 21, 2015, 01:39:26 PM
DrGeoff, that sounds like exactly what I need, if I can just figure out how to turn that option on... I will start looking about...

From your link: "The OBi can also be set to work as a 3-port switch (a.k.a. Bridge mode), by changing its OperationMode parameter from Router to Bridge." I cannot however find this setting to make the change, do you perhaps know where to find it?
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: N7AS on March 21, 2015, 01:52:52 PM
Go to Router Configuration > LAN Settings > OperationMode
and set to Bridge in the Drop Down.

Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: Dravial on March 21, 2015, 02:02:22 PM
I have a feeling I am not starting in the right place, so allow me to explain what I am doing:
1) www.obitalk.com
2) log in, go to device home
3) Click on my device, then click on OBi Expert Configuration at the bottom
4) Select Yes, I want to go into Expert Configuration
5) Click on Enter OBi Expert
6) Click on Router Configuration on the left, options for WAN Settings and QoS Settings appear, nothing for LAN Setting...
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: N7AS on March 21, 2015, 02:07:20 PM
I configure my OBi202 locally and not through the OBiTalk Dashboard. I guess they don't include the LAN Settings when you use their portal. Interesting.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: Dravial on March 21, 2015, 02:09:39 PM
So how do I connect locally? I am trying to enter the internal ip address, which for me happens to be 192.168.1.13, but I get no url found. I am using google chrome...

Also at the link above, down the page a bit: "Access the OBi Device Management Web Page:

1.       From a phone attached to the OBi, dial * * * to access the OBi Config Attendant.
2.       Choose “1” to hear the IP Address of the OBi read back to you. Write this down.
3.       Enter the OBi IP Address in a local PC web browser address field:
4.       When prompted, enter “admin” for user name and “admin” for password."

I do steps 1 & 2 and get the same ip as in the web based dashboard and as reported by my router device list, but when I enter the ip in a browser I get 'The requested URL was not found!'

I have tried it from other computers from my network and with different browsers with the same result...
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: N7AS on March 21, 2015, 02:24:08 PM
To verify your IP address dial ***1 and listen for your network status. Write down the IP address and enter it in the address bar of Chrome.

If you want to configure OBi202 locally, you must disable Auto Provisioning.
Remember if you do this you won't be able to configure using the OBiTalk portal. It's either one or the other. When you disable Auto Provisioning, you may have to reenter passwords.

Go to System Management > Auto Provisioning >
Auto Firmware Update > Method > Disable
ITSP Provisioning > Method > Disable
OBiTalk Provisioning > Method > Disable



Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: drgeoff on March 21, 2015, 02:35:06 PM
1. I don't have a 202 so cannot comment on what settings are available via the Expert mode of the portal.

2. While in router mode you can only access locally from a PC plugged into the OBi's LAN socket. You'll also need the PC to have an address on the same subnet as the OBi either by setting it manually or using DHCP.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: N7AS on March 21, 2015, 02:43:05 PM
When I get a new OBi device, the first thing I do is set a Static IP. Every device on my network has a Static Ip. This includes computers and printers too,
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: Dravial on March 21, 2015, 02:56:49 PM
To verify:

1) www.obitalk.com
2) log in, go to device home
3) Click on my device, then click on OBi Expert Configuration at the bottom
4) Select Yes, I want to go into Expert Configuration
5) Click on Enter OBi Expert
6) Go to System Management Tab on the left, select Auto provisioning sub section which opens new menus on the right
7) Under Auto Firmware Update section, Find the Method 'value' and change it to disable (it already is this value)
8) Under ITSP Provisioning section, Find the Method 'value' and change it to disable (this value is System Start, and I am unable to change it)
9) Under OBiTalk Provisioning section, Find the Method 'value' and change it to disable (this section is not on my list)

I cannot complete the changes you mention...

Well DrGeoff, since right now that computer will not communicate with OBi for whatever reason, I am stuck. It bounces between identifying and disconnected (cable unplugged). Not to sound ignorant, but this is half retarded... I am wondering if I should do a factory reset on the OBi and start over...
Since while in expert config in the web based portal, I am now trying to see if I can make any changes to any settings, and it seems i can not. I must have inadvertently screwed something up, or the OBi is defective, I think I will try a factory reset and start over...

I think a bourbon is in order first...
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: N7AS on March 21, 2015, 03:05:01 PM
When in OBi Expert, in order for a change to stick, you have to uncheck both boxes to the right of the value.

Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: Dravial on March 21, 2015, 03:12:56 PM
OK! Well, then now I can complete two of the three changes you mentioned. Again, I can not complete the last as the option/setting for me to do so do not exist.

However I still can not get the computer to communicate on the LAN that is connected to OBi, it drops every three seconds or so, reconnects and drops again, over and over. Also, making two of the three changes you mentioned above is not enough to allow me to connect to the ip of my OBi, and since DrGeoff has also pointed out that while it is in router mode (and stuck therein) I can only connect to it via the computer that is plugged into its LAN port, I am at an impasse. For sake if argument, I even tried connecting a different computer via ethernet LAN port to the OBi, with the same result - so somewhere the LAN of the OBi got royal wankered. I will do a reset, finish my bourbon and report back soon... Thanks for the assistance thus far.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: N7AS on March 21, 2015, 03:30:12 PM
The only device that I use the OBi Expert configuration on is my OBi200. I just went into OBi Expert and see that there is no configuration for OBiTalk.

Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: SteveInWA on March 21, 2015, 03:43:42 PM
The OBi's LAN interface can't be configured as a switch vs. a router via the OBiTALK interface.

Trying to get Windows networking to work across subnets is a hassle. 

LAN ports are like chocolate:  you can never have enough.  You'd be much better off just forgetting about the LAN port on the OBi, and buying a gigabit Ethernet switch.  They're cheap, no configuration is necessary, and you can chain several together, as your home network grows.  Like N7AS said, an 8 port switch would be a good option, or, if you want to save a few dollars, Euros or Pounds, get a 4-port switch.

Your use of the term "royal wankered" makes me think you're in the UK, but for shopping purposes, here are some examples of good, inexpensive switches available in the USA.  I use the metal-boxed Netgear and Trendnet models:

http://www.newegg.com/Switches/SubCategory/ID-30?&cm_sp=Cat_Wired-Wired-Networking_1-VisNav-_-Switches

This one, for example, would be a great choice:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704173
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: drgeoff on March 21, 2015, 03:50:11 PM
You can use the IVR to set bridge mode from a phone plugged in to the OBi.

Go to http://www.obihai.com/OBiDeviceAdminGuide and search (usually CTRL-F) for 'Router Related Configuration Options (OBi202 and OBi302 Only)'.  Selection 31.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: Dravial on March 21, 2015, 03:51:09 PM
Well, I just did a factory reset on my OBi 202, and now the computer plugged into OBi's LAN has internet access again. It is odd, because windows reports it is joined to the homegroup, but it can not see homegroup locations, and other computers in homegroup can not see it either... Anyway I digress, I will now attempt to change it from router mode to bridge and report back...

Thanks Steve, I already have two port switches set up on my network not to mention I am trying to minimize plug in items as I also have battery backups on essential items (like router and phone) so I can keep phone/internet even if power goes out (having FiOS on battery backup enables this as well) - I already have an ethernet wiring nightmare which I try to keep contained for appearances while maintaining effectiveness, and I have almost twice as many WiFi devices hooked up as well.
As for my wording I go with what suits the situation, and based on what I was dealing with, 'royally wankered' fit 'bueatimusly' (PS: I am a bit anal, and a horrid perfectionist, I want everything to work in the best manner possible, as I see fit... And I will not quit until it does so...)

Kind of wondering why OBi is not set as a bridge as default since I would think this is the way most people would be wanting to use it...

Thank you DrGeoff, I found this section. Wife calling for dinner now, will check this out when I get back, thanks again all for your help.

UPDATE: I have now successfully used IVR interface to set as bridge and logged into the device locally via browser. The computer connected to OBi's LAN port is now seeing all networked homegroup computers, devices and folders. Now I will set the device back up for phone and we will be in business. This is how the device should work. ;)

Phone is set back up and now everything is working perfectly. It would still be my personal opinion these should come out of the box with bridge as default... Also, I notice when I close the browser for options @ 192.168.1.xx when I reopen it, I do not have to log in - therefore I never logged out, is there a secret way to log out? Seems like a mundane security issue...

SCRATCH THAT. Once I got the phone working again, I went back to the computer which is plugged into the LAN port of the OBi, and even though it was connecting to the network prior resetting the device back up via obitalk, after registering the device and activating GV it is not working again... The LAN port light is out again... What gives?

UPDATE Again: I had another bourbon. Then I noticed (via local browser) in Router Configuration / LAN Settings / Router IP Address / The value here (Default) was incorrect, I fixed it to 192.168.1.1 and now everything is fine... but how did that change by setting up GV? I think to answer that I will need more bourbons then I will be consuming this fine evening... Definitely not a Plug and Play Device lol... Thanks for all your help guys... I poured a bourbon for each of ya :D
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: N7AS on March 21, 2015, 03:58:02 PM
The reasion I think Bridge Mode is not the default is because it can be connected ahead of the router for better QOS.



Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: LTN1 on March 21, 2015, 04:10:40 PM
Quote from: SteveInWA on March 21, 2015, 03:43:42 PM
The OBi's LAN interface can't be configured as a switch vs. a router via the OBiTALK interface.


Steve...I haven't used the extra LAN port on my OBi202 yet. Given the trouble that Dravial is having in using that port, what can it easily be used for without any complicated configuration?

For example, I have a Motorola SBG6580. It is both a modem and router combined with four ethernet ports in the back--all being used. One of the ports is used by the OBi202. The LAN port on the 202 is free. Can I easily use it as a fifth ethernet port if I programmed it to go into bridge mode by phone like this:

To put the OBi into bridge mode, on the attached phone dial ***0, 31#, 1,1#,1.

If I could do it easily by programming it via phone...will the auto provisioning of the Obitalk revert it back to router mode?
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: SteveInWA on March 21, 2015, 04:42:48 PM
I dunno about whether or not the OBiTALK portal would override or change the router/bridge setting.  I really doubt it, since OBiTALK intentionally doesn't control that setting.  Of course, you could try it yourself and find out.

In bridge mode, it should behave just like another switch port.  The only caveat would be that both Ethernet ports on the 202 are 100Mb, not gigabit, and that the 202 is going to control its LAN port to prioritize for QoS.  Just something to keep in mind with regard to network performance when using the LAN port.

I don't know what the OP's issue was, getting the 202 to work in bridge mode.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: Dravial on March 21, 2015, 05:22:53 PM
That's funny, because I am not sure what my original issue was either, other then everything was not working the way I wanted it (and expected it) too - maybe I hit an improper setting in the web based OBiTalk. I know resetting it resolved it, until I used the web based OBiTalk interface to reset up my account and GV on the OBi202. Therefore at this point I am thinking stay away from the web based OBiTalk interface...

LTN1: It is working perfectly now, you just have to be sure the settings are correct, and know how to find them. (And I think stay away from the OBiTALK Portal...) I also disabled the auto-provisioning as suggested by N7AS in all settings so it cannot revert.

FFS... The internet on the LAN port of the OBi202 just went out again, randomly, I didn't touch a thing... Seriously wth...

I reset the changes I made back to default and reset both OBi and the computer, it is working for now... I hope this is not going to be an on-going game. I prefer RTS to 'Real Time Annoying'...
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: SteveInWA on March 21, 2015, 05:43:46 PM
Hence my KISS solution to just use an external switch and don't worry about it.  I'm not saying that this is the best answer for everyone, or that the LAN port in the 202 isn't reliable or usable -- I'm just saying:  don't bang your head on the table over it, take the non-OCD approach and use a proven alternative.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: LTN1 on March 21, 2015, 06:12:46 PM
Dravial...since you are configuring your OBi202 to use the LAN port anyway, would you try putting the configuration back to the original setting of router, turning auto-provisioning on the Obitalk site (wait until it auto-provisions if needed) then try setting it to bridge mode via a telephone handset connected to the OBi202 by inputting this:

To put the OBi into bridge mode, on the attached phone dial ***0, 31#, 1,1#,1

See if that would work any better and let us know.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: Dravial on March 21, 2015, 07:04:20 PM
It is still working fine. And I have not gone back to the Web based OBiTALK portal. I think that may be the problem here, or maybe I missed a reboot, but everything is working fine now - I would suggest to you activating bridge via IVR as mentioned previously, rebooting, then only using the locally based way of adjusting settings via 192.168.xxx.yyy per your routers assignment, and disabling any provisioning per N7AS's direction. In the end this seems to be working fine.

No offense, but I finally have it working and I do not want to be your Guinea Pig. You can always try it and do a factory reset if it fails, here's how: http://www.obihai.com/faq/Troubleshooting-sec/How-to-Factory-Reset
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: LTN1 on March 21, 2015, 09:39:00 PM
Quote from: Dravial on March 21, 2015, 07:04:20 PM
No offense, but I finally have it working and I do not want to be your Guinea Pig.

You got me! If you could though, let us know how the bridge setup is working out for you. For example, did it caused any changes to the quality of the calls (e.g., diminish call quality), etc.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: Dravial on March 23, 2015, 07:08:30 AM
I noticed no degradation in call quality at all, it is my understanding QoS in still in effect for calls - now please note I did not max out my bandwidth while on a call, so a better test may be in order.

With that said, the LAN port on the OBi202 dies again, the computer on the other end is not seeing the network or getting internet again... It simply reports connecting/not connected continuously over and over repeating about every 2-3 seconds...

UPDATE: I power cycled both the router and the OBi, and now it is working again - The computer on OBi's LAN port can see both internet and network... Let's see how long it lasts this time...
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: LTN1 on March 23, 2015, 07:33:19 AM
Dravial...strange that your LAN port on the 202 keeps on doing that. I hope you don't have a defective unit.

Just want to also update you on how I actually configured my OBi202 to bridge mode. Since I wanted to continue to configure my OBi through the OBiTalk portal, I didn't undo the auto-configuration. I then used a phone connected to the 202 to enter the following programming codes (that I previously described): ***0, 31#, 1,1#,1

After entering the codes, the 202 automatically rebooted. After the reboot, I plugged in one of the ethernet connections (a PBX and hybrid ATA system) I had to my modem/router into the 202 LAN port and it immediately recognized the device--in fact the IP address for the device had not changed. It was as though I unplugged the device from one of the router ethernet ports and insert into another ethernet port on the same router. So now in bridge mode, the 202 LAN appears to be functioning as an extra ethernet port on the same network.

I then power cycled everything just to make sure when it started again, the 202 would not revert to the original configuration--and it didn't. The OBiTalk portal continues to stay connected. Testing of the VoIP phone did not show any different voice quality than before.

The initial process to program the code to bridging mode and automatic reboot was no more than 1 minute (everything thereafter was just me testing). I just wanted to follow up this with you in the event you ever want to go back to the OBiTalk portal instead of the web portal.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: Dravial on March 23, 2015, 08:43:09 AM
Thanks for the update. I think if it was defective, it wouldn't be working at all. I did not disconnect everything and reconnect after changing modes as you stated, and this could have caused an issue. If that is the case, after power cycling everything this morning, I 'should' have no more problems. It may be a case of getting frustrated and not following proper protocol/procedure on my end. I will keep you updated in either event in case this information can help someone else.

UPDATE: Something is definitely not right with OBi... After the computer on OBi's LAN port goes to 'sleep' for a while, and is woken up, it can no longer communicate on the LAN port - the LAN light on OBi goes dark, and the computer reports connecting/not connected continuously over and over repeating about every 2-3 seconds...
And when the computer goes back to sleep, the data port on the OBi lights back up and acts as though everything is fine again, that is, until I walk over and strike a mouse button on the sleeping computer, then the LAN light instantly goes dim and the computer wakes up...
When I initially power cycled the devices this morning,  let the PC go to sleep for a few minutes and woke it up, and everything was fine. But after being gone all day and coming back 10-12 hours later, it is broken again...
Is there any help for this issue?
LTN1, does your computer go into sleep mode and perform properly when woken up? (Never-mind, I re-read and see you connected another ATA device into it, so I doubt it will act in the same manner).

OTHER THOUGHTS: Overnight last night they upgraded my internet service. In the process I did receive a new ip address, this could have screwed everything up again? I power cycled the OBi and Router and will check again later and see if the LAN port fails again...
This is why I drink so much bourbon...
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: N7AS on March 24, 2015, 12:41:07 PM
Did you ever try to set a Static IP on the OBi202? If you are using the OBiTalk Dashboard, this can be done through the Expert Configuration.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup
Post by: Dravial on March 24, 2015, 02:58:45 PM
Well, just got home and checked the computer on the LAN port of OBi again. Sure enough, after I woke the computer up, the LAN port died...

N7AS: I believe I disabled the functionality of the OBiTALK dashboard/portal per your instructions:
"To verify your IP address dial ***1 and listen for your network status. Write down the IP address and enter it in the address bar of Chrome.
If you want to configure OBi202 locally, you must disable Auto Provisioning.
Remember if you do this you won't be able to configure using the OBiTalk portal. It's either one or the other. When you disable Auto Provisioning, you may have to reenter passwords.
Go to System Management > Auto Provisioning >
Auto Firmware Update > Method > Disable
ITSP Provisioning > Method > Disable
OBiTalk Provisioning > Method > Disable"

Maybe I should re-enable it then... Something for sure isn't right here...

OK, trying this, basically exactly what LTN1 did...

1.   I removed all cables from the back of the Obi202,
2.   Since I was not exactly sure which settings I undid, or what to change them back too, because some of them do not default to being turned on, I did a factory reset per: http://www.obihai.com/faq/Troubleshooting-sec/How-to-Factory-Reset
3.   Then I let the device reboot,
4.   Then I plugged the phone back in, and the Internet Ethernet cable only (to the router)
5.   I logged in and reset the Obi back up with my GV,
6.   I then used the IVR interface and turned on bridge mode via: ***0, 31#, 1,1#,1
7.   I let Obi reboot
8.   I then connected the Ethernet cable to the other computer to the LAN port.
9.   It took a while, but the other computer got internet/network/homegroup access

I will see if it sticks this time, I made no other changes at all other then what I described above.

Thanks for your patience and support. Here is hoping this has just been a coincidence of unfortunate events... The bright side is unfortunate events justify, if not mandate, imbibing bourbon...

UPDATE: As of the next morning, everything seems to be working properly (he stated, scared it would cause him to jinx himself...).
UPDATE #2: Left it sleep all day, my daughter came home and used the computer to look up her grades, worked fine. My son comes back an hour later to use computer, and it has no internet/network when it wakes up and bounces back and forth again just like before between identifying and disconnected. After a reboot of the computer it is still the same.
I WAS JUST CHANGING MY POST TO RESOLVED when this happened (Which I reverted back seconds later). I rebooted the Obi and now the internet/network is back. SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT HERE...

OK. That last 'failure' was due to my son, as I have now realized. When the computer goes to sleep, it loses its connection, when it wakes up it re-establishes it. however, he does not give the computer 5-10 seconds to re-orient itself, instead he logs in and BAM opens a browser. This seems to cause an issue where it has not reconnected to the network yet, and cause the whole thing to freeze up. I have told him to 'count to ten' first when waking the computer up, and I am having no more issues. Here is hoping this info might be useful to someone else - the bridge feature works fine, but you have to have more patience then a 14 year old...
This is is resolved.
Thanks.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup - RESOLVED
Post by: Dravial on March 28, 2015, 04:54:00 PM
Double Post, and at this point I could care less.

RESOLVED = bridge mode simply doesn't work. Either that or I have a faulty unit and please send a new one.

Either way Resolved only due to my patience ending. Listen to Steve, buy a port switch, because OBi cant handle a bridge. This is ridiculous and requires Maker's Mark with my homemade Amaretto...

Anyone have a coupon for a port switch?
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup - RESOLVED
Post by: LTN1 on March 28, 2015, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: Dravial on March 28, 2015, 04:54:00 PM
Duuble Post, and at this point I could care less.

RESOLVED = bridge mode simply doesn't work. Either that or I have a faulty unit and please send a new one.

Either way Resolved only due to my patience ending. Listen to Steve, but a port switch, because OBi cant handle a fuckin' bridge. This is ridiculous and requires Maker's Mark with my homemade Amaretto...

Anyone have a coupon for a port switch?

Sorry to hear your problems. My OBi bridge mode has been fine since March 23rd. Now I don't use the OBi LAN port to connect my computer, just a hybrid PBX system. As far as I can tell, the PBX system, which regularly sends out a signal for the SIP lines, continues to work.

Have you contacted Obitalk support to see what else you can do? You can try sending it in for replacement. If it was me, I would buy another one just to test if the new one has any issues. If it does, perhaps it is something with the network configuration. If it works without problems, you know that you have a defective unit. Return the new one under warranty and send the defective one in for replacement.

One last thing...I'm sure there are a number of us that would appreciate you refraining on the profanity. Life can get a lot tougher than the troubles of a $74 equipment. I realize its been a headache...but try to remember, it is only a small piece of imperfect technology in a world where people have a lot more life and death issues.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup - RESOLVED
Post by: SteveInWA on March 28, 2015, 07:45:47 PM
Quote from: Dravial on March 28, 2015, 04:54:00 PM
Duuble Post, and at this point I could care less.

RESOLVED = bridge mode simply doesn't work. Either that or I have a faulty unit and please send a new one.

Either way Resolved only due to my patience ending. Listen to Steve, but a port switch, because OBi cant handle a fuckin' bridge. This is ridiculous and requires Maker's Mark with my homemade Amaretto...

Anyone have a coupon for a port switch?

http://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=9645.msg63934#msg63934

Just buy a switch.  They're reliable and cheap.  Shop Newegg's deal pages for a discount/sale price.  Netgear and Trendnet are my top picks for value.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup - RESOLVED
Post by: Dravial on March 29, 2015, 05:28:25 AM
Spelling fixed and improper language usage removed. My apologies as I sat down to this yesterday evening late after enjoying finally getting outside all day after winter, working around the house was tired and had, of course, a bourbon or two. Not that it's an excuse, but it is what it is, just like OBi Bridge mode...

And yes, I talked to support via e-mail, and basically told me turn on bridge mode and walk away slowly; "Please don’t disable the OBi provisioning, you won’t be able to make any changes to obitalk and it will have severe issues down the road.
The easiest solution to the LAN port issue, is to simply turn the LAN port into bridge mode, that’s all.   And you can do so without disabling the OBi provisioning."

I think I will just go with this for a $5 solution as the computer is about 12 feet from the Router (w/ WiFi) anyway: http://www.ebay.com/itm/301399250734

I wonder if OBi would work with this instead of the computer or if you have to buy the OBi branded one...
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup - RESOLVED
Post by: LTN1 on March 29, 2015, 06:32:10 AM
Quote from: Dravial on March 29, 2015, 05:28:25 AM
I think I will just go with this for a $5 solution as the computer is about 12 feet from the Router (w/ WiFi) anyway: http://www.ebay.com/itm/301399250734

I wonder if OBi would work with this instead of the computer or if you have to buy the OBi branded one...

That's a pretty good find. I don't know for sure if it will work with the OBi but I can't see why not? Perhaps others will know. Even if they don't, if you are brave enough to buy it and test...let the rest know if it works. The item does seem to have a 14-day return warranty if it doesn't work and I suppose shipping is pretty light to return.

If you ever get the chance though, I would eventually buy another OBi202 from Amazon...they have a great return policy for items that doesn't work properly--to see if this darn issue that you are facing is actually truly caused by a defect or if it is something else? I know that Steve's solution is the cheapest and quickest solution, but I like to always determine what the real issue is also. You at least know that I have mine on bridge mode for almost a week without any noticeable problems...but you also know that I started the bridge mode without ever turning auto-provisioning off.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup - RESOLVED
Post by: drgeoff on March 29, 2015, 09:30:34 AM
I'd put money (but not my life) on that NOT working.

USB dongles have a vendor and product pair of ID codes which the host device uses to recognise the dongle and where necessary load the appropriate driver.  OBi ATAs are only programmed to recognised Obihai's own WiFi and Bluetooth dongles.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup - RESOLVED
Post by: Dravial on March 29, 2015, 01:06:51 PM
I figured. My intended use for the USB Receiver was on the PC - using it on OBi was a second thought. I will depopulate the LAN port on OBi since it does not play well with others if I can not get this resolved and put the USB received in the afflicted PC.
I have also followed up with e-mail support in case they have any ideas. I will let you know if they do.

Also: I even tried setting a static IP on OBi today as per N7AS via OBiTALK web portal / expert config / router settings / change DHCP to Static and the IP line under it to the IP it was assigned at the time. It worked for a while, then the computer went to sleep, and when it woke up, OBi would no longer play with it.
After doing this I could no longer make or receive calls, even though OBiTALK Web portal showed everything was functioning normally.
Deleting the IP in IPAddress and clicking the radio button back to 'OBiTALK Settings' while leaving the AddressingType to Static and allowing OBi to reboot has resolved the issue of making and receiving calls. (The Red Exclamations remain however).
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup - RESOLVED
Post by: N7AS on March 29, 2015, 02:00:12 PM
When setting a Static IP on the OBi202, I would use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 for the DNS Servers. I use these on all my devices.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup - RESOLVED
Post by: Dravial on March 29, 2015, 03:15:44 PM
I have absolutely no idea why you would do that, so I will not try to imitate you, but thanks for your input.
However after the computer on the LAN port of OBi went to sleep, and was awoken, with the last settings I described above, the LAN port was dead and it bounced a few times, but then finally connected.
I will leave it here for now until I find, if there is one, a better solution.

UPDATE: Once the computer sleeps overnight, and is woken the next morning, I have the same result as before: LAN PORT 'dies', computer goes from connecting to no connection over and over.

LTN1: Feel free to send me one Amazon, and I will test it. You can even send me a shipping label and I will send you this one for your trialing pleasure. I do not have the resources for that, hence why I am opting to an initially free phone alternative to start with, and so frustrated it will not work within my current setup. I treat my money differently then most, and I will leave it at that as that discussion is more political and of no relevance to the issue at hand.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup - NOT RESOLVED - Giving up instead...
Post by: Dravial on April 07, 2015, 05:31:15 PM
FYI: E-mail Support suggested I try connecting a different computer, after they were unable to duplicate my issue. I have, and that computer is connecting perfectly. No issues, the bridge is functioning just as it should - I waited several days with sleep times of ~10 hours to be sure before I updated.

The moral? Make sure you have a separate computer for your children to use, preferably on a different network in another country... And don't try to connect it behind an OBi device. It might be better this way, they may have ended up somehow infecting it with their 'anti-computer' disease in the future...

Thanks everyone for your help, comments and most of all patience.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup - RESOLVED
Post by: LTN1 on April 07, 2015, 06:07:23 PM
Glad that it worked out. I'm about 2 1/2 weeks in with my OBi bridging mode and everything still works fine.

It's just nice to be able to use a LAN port that's not being used. It frees my other ethernet ports for something else.
Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup - RESOLVED
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Title: Re: OBi & Network & Homegroup - RESOLVED
Post by: hulu123 on December 24, 2020, 09:07:22 PM
have you tried to connect with OBi device support