MrTom. You've behaved rudely. I think you went overboard with the previous poster and owe an apology. I regret I ever attempted to provide help to you. We live in a self serve world, so a forum like this where advice and knowledge is offered freely should be treasured, not abused. As for Obi Extras, I'm not a subscriber, and likely won't be, but when I look at how much money obi saves me, I don't begrudge them trying to make a living. If they don't, I don't save. So, when my warranty runs out, if it costs me $10/year to maintain good service, it's a small nick in the $700 annual savings I enjoy. Pardon me, if I proceed on the assumption that you're a smart guy and will figure something out on your own.