DialPlan For Mexico

[hayloc]

Hey I tried to set up a dialing plan with SP1 as my main and my LINE Port for local calls here in Mexico, but I don't think I got it quite right.  Here are my settings:

Physical Interfaces -> PHONE Port -> PrimaryLine : SP1 Service

Service Providers -> ITSP Profile A -> General -> DigitMap:

(<1>[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxx|<**8>xxxxxxxx|<**8>01xxxxxxxxxx|<**8>133xxxxxxxx|<**8>01800xxxxxxx|011xx.|xx.|(Mipd)|[^*]@@.'@'@@.)

Physical Interfaces -> LINE Port -> DigitMap:

(0xx|xxxxxxxx|01xxxxxxxxxx|133xxxxxxxx|01800xxxxxxx|xx.)


What I wanted to accomplish was all US calls go through SP1 (Google Voice)
and Calls within Mexico to go through the LINE Port
xxxx-xxxx [Local 8 digit Calls]
01(xx)xxxx-xxxx
1(xx)xxxx-xxxx
044(xx)xxxx-xxxx
01800-xxxx-xxx
060 [Local Police]
066 [Local 911 Service]
071 [Local Electricity]

[RonR]

Since Mexico doesn't follow the North American Numbering Plan (NANP), there are conflicts that make it impossible to automatically route calls based on the dialed number.  I would suggest the following:


Physical Interfaces -> PHONE Port -> DigitMap:

([1-9]x?*(Mpli)|[1-9]S9|[1-9][0-9]S9|0xx|**0|***|#|**1(Msp1)|**2(Msp2)|**8(Mli)|**9(Mpp)|(Mpli))

Physical Interfaces -> PHONE Port -> OutboundCallRoute:

{([1-9]x?*(Mpli)):pp},{(<#:>|0xx):li},{**0:aa},{***:aa2},{(<**1:>(Msp1)):sp1},
{(<**2:>(Msp2)):sp2},{(<**8:>(Mli)):li},{(<**9:>(Mpp)):pp},{(Mpli):pli}

Physical Interfaces -> PHONE Port -> PrimaryLine : PSTN Line

Physical Interfaces -> LINE Port -> DigitMap:

(0xx|xxxxxxxx|01xxxxxxxx|01xxxxxxxxxx|1xxxxxxxx|1xxxxxxxxxx|044xxxxxxxx|044xxxxxxxxxx|<**1>00xx.)

Service Providers -> ITSP Profile A -> General -> DigitMap : (<1>[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|1xxxxxxxxxx|(00|011)xx.)


                   0xx  ->  LINE Port
              8 digits  ->  LINE Port
01 + 8/10 digits  ->  LINE Port
   1 + 8/10 digits  ->  LINE Port
044 + 8/10 digits  ->  LINE Port
                   00+  ->  SP1 Service

Dial US/Canada numbers through Google Voice (SP1) using **1 + number or 00 + 1 + number

[hayloc]

That setup works better.  I was going nuts trying different things out.  Thanks so much for your help.

[ChuckHL]

Thanks a lot RonR for the info. I was able to setup my Obi110 to work as I wanted thanks to your reply to Hayloc.

I will share my setup in case anyone else is also interested (its almost identical to RonR original info with few minor tweaks). If anyone sees a better way to improve it, I'm all ears to your comments. And thanks again to RonR

Physical Interfaces -> PHONE Port -> DigitMap:
([1-9]x?*(Mpli)|[1-9]S9|[1-9][0-9]S9|06x|**0|***|#|**1(Msp1)|**2(Msp2)|**8(Mli)|**9(Mpp)|(Mpli))

Personally, I didn't see any difference between having 06X in the rule or simply not having it at all. The only reason I put it is since the original rule (default from ObiTalk) had 911 (which is for emergency services) I thought I could do the same with 06X since all emergency services in Mexico start with 06X (060 - Police, 065 - Red Cross, 066 - Emergency services).

Physical Interfaces -> PHONE Port -> OutboundCallRoute:
{([1-9]x?*(Mpli)):pp},{(<#:>|06x):li},{**0:aa},{***:aa2},{(<**1:>(Msp1)):sp1},
{(<**2:>(Msp2)):sp2},{(<**8:>(Mli)):li},{(<**9:>(Mpp)):pp},{(Mpli):pli}

Same comment as above regarding 06X

Physical Interfaces -> PHONE Port -> PrimaryLine : PSTN Line

Physical Interfaces -> LINE Port -> DigitMap:
(0xx|xxxxxxxx|01xxxxxxxx|01xxxxxxxxxx|1xxxxxxxx|1xxxxxxxxxx|044xxxxxxxx|044xxxxxxxxxx|<**1>00xx.)
EDITED:
(0[2-3]x|0[5-8]x|04[0-3]|04[6-9]|[1-9]xxxxxx|01xxxxxxxxxx|044xxxxxxxxxx|045xxxxxxxxxx|<**1>0[09]xx.)
(0[2-3]x|0[5-9]x|04[0-3]|04[6-9]|[1-9]xxxxxx|01xxxxxxxxxx|044xxxxxxxxxx|045xxxxxxxxxx|<**1>00xx.)


I didn't leave the 0XX rule since if by mistake a person dials 01x (for long distance) or 044,045 (for cell phones) and waits a bit before dialing the rest of the digits, the call will start and will fail to complete the rest of the digits.

Service Providers -> ITSP Profile A -> General -> DigitMap :
Left default configuration from Obitalk.

What is supposed to do (and so far is working for me):

                  0xx  ->  LINE Port  
                          (If you dial a 3 digit number starting with zero with the exceptions of 01X, 044, 045, 09X,
                          and 00X, it will try to connect you immediately without waiting for more digits)
            7 digits  ->  LINE Port (The first digit cannot be zero)
                          (Since I don't leave in Mexico's capital, everywhere else phones are 7 digits based
                          and 3 digits area code based)
   01 + 10 digits  ->  LINE Port (Long distance land line)
  044 + 10 digits  ->  LINE Port (Local Cell Phones)
  045 + 10 digits  ->  LINE Port (Long distance Cell Phones)
                  09+  ->  SP1 Service  (09 is for operator assisted international calls which I want to disable
                                                 and treat the same as 00 calls)
                  00+  ->  SP1 Service  (00 is for international calls)

Dial US/Canada numbers through Google Voice (SP1) using 00 + 1 + number or 09 + 1 + number
I personally also have a CallCentric account which does offer very cheap international rates and I have it on my device as SP2.

Additional helpful codes:
**1      ->        Dial through SP1 (in my case Google Voice). Digitamap rules for SP1 will apply.
**2      ->        Dial through SP2 (in my case CallCentric). Digitamap rules for SP2 will apply.
**8      ->        Dial through your landline. Digitamap rules for landline will apply.
**9      ->        Dial through your Obitalk to other Obitalks
#         ->        Connect directly to your landline. It is like picking up your landline directly without ObiTalk interfering).


Mexico Service numbers
#    Services
020    Operator-assisted domestic collect call
030    Local time
031    Wake up service
040    Information / directory
050    Phone company hotline
060    Police
065    Red Cross
066    Emergency services
070    City hotline (not available in some cities)
071    CFE hotline (electric company)
080    Emergency services
090    Operator-assisted international collect call

Have a good day.

I had to edit this post since dialing 09xx. did not work. For some reason the call does go to my SP1 but the 9 gets appended and does not work as expected. If I find how to fix it will post it, or if someone knows, I hope they can pitch in a solution for what I tried.

[ianobi]

Here are a couple of alternatives, that you might want to consider:

Physical Interfaces -> LINE Port -> DigitMap:
(0[2-3,5-9]x|04[0-3,6-9]|[1-9]xxxxxx|01xxxxxxxxxx|044xxxxxxxxxx|045xxxxxxxxxx|<**1>00xx.|<09:**100>xx.)

This one combines ranges, so the first four rules become two rules. The last rule means if you dial 09xx. it will be transformed into **100xx. which will send it to sp1 in the same format as this rule <**1>00xx.


Physical Interfaces -> LINE Port -> DigitMap:
(0xxS4|[1-9]xxxxxx|01xxxxxxxxxx|044xxxxxxxxxx|045xxxxxxxxxx|<**1>00xx.|<09:**100>xx.)

This one brings back the "0xx" rule, but adds a four second delay. If you are dialling a number longer than three digits, so long as you don't pause for more than four seconds after the first three digits, then all will be ok. "06x" will be sent out with no delay because of your original configuration.

[ChuckHL]

Thank you for you input ianobi. I went with your second rule and it works flawlesly. Just one minor change which you made me realize. Since I want that 00 and 09 to translate to dial **1, I ended putting the rule as:

Physical Interfaces -> LINE Port -> DigitMap:
(0xxS4|[1-9]xxxxxx|01xxxxxxxxxx|044xxxxxxxxxx|045xxxxxxxxxx|<00:**1>xx.|<09:**1>xx.)

[ChuckHL]

My apologies for my indecision. But I have another question which I will appreciate your help.

I want to know if these rules will always work. I ended up changing my Line port digitmap rule

Physical Interfaces -> LINE Port -> Digitmap:
(0[2-8]xS4|[1-9]xxxxxx|01xxxxxxxxxx|044xxxxxxxxxx|045xxxxxxxxxx|<001:**11>xx.|<00:**2011>xx.)

The idea was pretty much the same as my previous post with the following modifications:
Disable 09x and 09xx.
Dialing 001 should be equal to dialing **1 1 (I added the extra one so that i can just dial area code and phone from the US or Canada) SP1 is my google voice and i have free calls to the US and Canada in SP1.
If I dial 001 520 555 0000 I want to mean to dial 1 520 555 0000 in SP1

Dialing 00 + country code + the rest of the numbers should be equal to dialing **2 011 + country code + the rest of the numbers in SP2 which is my callcentric account and offers very cheap international rates.
If I dial 00 23 456 7890... I want to mean to dial 011 23 467 7890... in SP2.

My question is if rule 001 in SP1 will always take place before rule 00 in SP2.

Regards

[ianobi]

Looking at these two rules <001:**11>xx.|<00:**2011>xx. the matching is done ignoring the part between the ":" and the ">". Effectively the rules are 001xx.|00xx. Only after the matching is done is the transforming done - 001 is replaced by **11 and 00 is replaced by **2011. This is all done in the first stage of processing as digits are passed through the Phone Port DigitMap. The transformed number is then passed to the Phone Port OutboundCallRoute.

In the second stage the **1 and **2 are removed by these rules in the Phone Port OutboundCallRoute {(<**1:>(Msp1)):sp1},{(<**2:>(Msp2)):sp2}

This means that 001xx. will always go to sp1, as 001 is a more specific match than 00x and 002 through to 009 will always go to sp2 as they have nowhere else to go!

[ChuckHL]

Thank you very much for your thorough explanation ianobi. I understand now how it works a little bit more.
Truly appreciated.


In summary my configuration ended up like this (Settings for Obi110):
Physical Interfaces -> PHONE Port -> DigitMap:
([1-9]x?*(Mpli)|[1-9]S9|[1-9][0-9]S9|06x|**0|***|#|**1(Msp1)|**2(Msp2)|**8(Mli)|**9(Mpp)|(Mpli))

Physical Interfaces -> PHONE Port -> OutboundCallRoute:
{([1-9]x?*(Mpli)):pp},{(<#:>|06x):li},{**0:aa},{***:aa2},{(<**1:>(Msp1)):sp1},
{(<**2:>(Msp2)):sp2},{(<**8:>(Mli)):li},{(<**9:>(Mpp)):pp},{(Mpli):pli}

Physical Interfaces -> PHONE Port -> PrimaryLine : PSTN Line

Physical Interfaces -> LINE Port -> DigitMap:
(0[2-8]xS4|[1-9]xxxxxx|01[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|044[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|045[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|<001:**11>xx.|<00:**2011>xx.)

All other settings were left as default

What it does:

                  0xx  ->  LINE Port (Dialing 09x is disabled)
            7 digits  ->  LINE Port (The first digit cannot be zero)
   01 + 10 digits  ->  LINE Port (Long distance land line) No area code start with 1 in Mexico.
  044 + 10 digits  ->  LINE Port (Local Cell Phones) No area code start with 1 in Mexico.
  045 + 10 digits  ->  LINE Port (Long distance Cell Phones) No area code start with 1 in Mexico.
                  001+  ->  SP1 Service  (001 is for international free calls to US and Canada) GVoice
                  00+  ->  SP2 Service  (00 is for international cheap calls to everywhere
                                                    except the US and Canada) Callcentric

Special thanks and all the credit to Ianobi and RonR

[DownSouth]

This is a modification of ChuckHL's plan.

It allows for the free calling to the US & Canada Telmex started in 2015 with the Infinitum/local phone line packages.
I chose to use a combination of US and Mexican dialing conventions since I have people from both countries who visit or work here.
This works for either type just like they were at home.

MEXICO       0xx  ->  LINE Port (Dialing 09x is disabled) (0[2-8]xS4
                               (If you dial a 3 digit number starting with zero with the exceptions of 01X, 044, 045, 09X, and 00X,
                                it will connect immediately without waiting for more digits otherwise 4 second wait)
             7 digits  ->  LINE Port (The first digit cannot be zero) |[1-9]xxxxxx
   01 + 10 digits  ->  LINE Port (Long distance land line) No area code start with 1 in Mexico. |01[2-9]xxxxxxxxx
                               (Since I don't live in Mexico's capital, everywhere else phones are 7 digits and 3 digits area code)
 044 + 10 digits  ->  LINE Port (Local Cell Phones) No area code starts with 1 in Mexico. |044[2-9]xxxxxxxxx
 045 + 10 digits  ->  LINE Port (Long distance Cell Phones) No area code start with 1 in Mexico. |045[2-9]xxxxxxxxx
  001+ 10 didits  ->  LINE Port (Long distance to US or Canada except toll free) |<001:**11>xx.

US  1 + 10 digits  ->  SP1 Service (Long distance to US or Canada) |<1:**11>xx.

US             011+  ->  SP2 Service  (011 is for international cheap calls to everywhere except the US and Canada) |<011:**2011>xx.)
              1777+  ->  SP2 Service  (Calls to other Callcentric #s) |<1777:**21777>xx.

Dial US/Canada numbers through Google Voice (SP1) using 1 + number
I have a CallCentric account which offers great service, cheap international rates and I have it on my device as SP2.

Additional helpful codes:
**1      ->        Dial through SP1 (in my case Google Voice). Digitmap rules for SP1 will apply.
**2      ->        Dial through SP2 (in my case CallCentric). Digitmap rules for SP2 will apply.
**8      ->        Dial through your landline. Digiamap rules for landline will apply.
**9      ->        Dial through your Obitalk to other Obitalks
#         ->        Connect directly to your landline. It is like picking up your landline directly without ObiTalk interfering).

Mexico Service numbers
020    Operator-assisted domestic collect call
030    Local time
031    Wake up service
040    Information / directory
050    Phone company hotline
060    Police
065    Red Cross
066    Emergency services
070    City hotline (not available in some cities)
071    CFE hotline (electric company)
080    Emergency services

In summary my configuration ended up like this (Settings for Obi110):

Physical Interfaces -> PHONE Port -> DigitMap:  911 replaced with 06x
Default ([1-9]x?*(Mpli)|[1-9]S9|[1-9][0-9]S9|911|**0|***|#|**1(Msp1)|**2(Msp2)|**8(Mli)|**9(Mpp)|(Mpli))
Mexico  ([1-9]x?*(Mpli)|[1-9]S9|[1-9][0-9]S9|06x|**0|***|#|**1(Msp1)|**2(Msp2)|**8(Mli)|**9(Mpp)|(Mpli))

Physical Interfaces -> PHONE Port -> OutboundCallRoute: 911 replaced with 06x
Default {([1-9]x?*(Mpli)):pp},{(<#:>|911):li},{**0:aa},{***:aa2},{(<**1:>(Msp1)):sp1},{(<**2:>(Msp2)):sp2},{(<**8:>(Mli)):li}, {(<**9:>(Mpp)):pp},{(Mpli):pli}
Mexico {([1-9]x?*(Mpli)):pp},{(<#:>|06x):li},{**0:aa},{***:aa2},{(<**1:>(Msp1)):sp1},{(<**2:>(Msp2)):sp2},{(<**8:>(Mli)):li},{(<**9:>(Mpp)):pp},{(Mpli):pli}

Physical Interfaces -> PHONE Port -> PrimaryLine : PSTN Line

Physical Interfaces -> LINE Port -> DigitMap:
Default (xxxxxxxS4|1xxxxxxxxxx|xx.)
Mexico (0[2-8]xS4|[1-9]xxxxxx|01[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|044[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|045[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|<001:**11>xx.|<00:**2011>xx.)
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Modifications so 1 +10 dials US or Canada with SP1. 011 dials international & 1777 dials other Callcentric customers on SP2.
(0[2-8]xS4|[1-9]xxxxxx|001[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|01[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|044[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|045[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|<1777:**21777>xx.|<1:**11>xx.|<011:**2011>xx.

All other settings were left at default.

[DownSouth]

I'm at my wit's end, not that I seem to have many anymore,

I need a dial plan for a OBi 110 and 212.
Since Mexico changed over to a 10 digit dial plan
and the US, etc use 11 digits it should be easy right?
Nope, though before I did a dial plan which is posted here.
https://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=3162.0

Everything works EXCEPT the incoming call from the PSTN does not ring the phone if Primary is SP1.
Calls from the SIP lines do.
If I set it up with PSTN primary then I need to dial **1 for SP1 before it will work.

Been trying to get this working for hours, and just cannot get it done.

US and Canada use 1 + 10 digit dialing or 11 digit from most SIP providers.
Mexico now has 10 digit dialing, 911 plus 0 xx [2-8] special numbers.
911 immediate | service numbers | 10 digits from 1-9.
There is no 1 prefix in Mexico.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[drgeoff]

Everything works EXCEPT the incoming call from the PSTN does not ring the phone if Primary is SP1.

The Primary Line is ONLY for outgoing calls.  That setting should have no effect on any incoming calls. (Neither PSTN nor SIP).

[azrobert]

If I set it up with PSTN primary then I need to dial **1 for SP1 before it will work.

What happens when you dial 1+10 digits?
Do you get the same result on both the 110 and 212?

You are missing the ending parenthesis.
Rules ending with "x." will cause a 10 second delay.
I don't like redundant code plus the following is easier to read.
Don't know if this will fix your problem.

(0[2-8]xS4|[1-9]xxxxxx|001[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|01[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|044[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|045[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|<**2>1777xx.|<**1>1xxxxxxxxxx|<**2>011xx.)

Edit:
Please post your SP1 digit map

[DownSouth]

I have a feeling I confused things by mentioning the previous dial plan.
Mexico now requires 10 digits for all numbers local & long distance except 911, special services (0xx) and International (00)
No 01, 044, 045 no 11 digit numbers
I am using a totally different setup which obviously has problems.
I will post it if you wish but would prefer to tell you what I need and perhaps you can make a plan?
I'd like to get the 110 setup first as I gave it to a friend and he needs US service.
I just reset everything to default and configured the ITSPs and SPs with the providers info.


*** Both Telmex PSTN & Cell plans have unlimited calling to US & Canada except for Toll Free numbers.

In order of usage of outgoing calls.
SP1 Toll free to the USA, International and Secondary non toll free calls to the USA. ***
18 [00,88,77,66,55] xxxxxxx
011xxx..................
1xxxxxxxxxx


SP2 is Callcentric 1777xxxxxxx, international and Tertiary USA calls
011xx. International of any length. First so no 10 sec wait
1777xxxxxxx Callcentric numbers
1xxxxxxxxxx All NA numbers

PSTN will be 911, 10-digit (Mexico), Primary non toll free calls to the USA (001 then 10 digits), special services, (0xx)
Line Port
<S0:911> 911 immediate (taken from page 9 of the OBi Digit Map Call Route Tutorial)
[2-9 xxxxxxxxxx 10 digit dialing
001 xxxxxxxxxx Telmex International code 00, 1 US country code, 10 digit number
0xx special services 0[2-8]x



Thanks in advance for the help.

[azrobert]

I don't understand, you have 011 and 11 digits going to both SP1 and SP2.

[DownSouth]

I felt incredibly stupid for not doing this before but it was a good learning experience.
I took my 2015 Mexico dial plan, modified it and ended up with the following which works exactly as stated.
                           HELP My OBi212 can't use SP3 for some unknown reason. HELP
It had to be a simple as possible for the person I gave the 110 to dial since they're techphobic and their memory is bad.

US numbers is ALWAYS 1 +10 digits Example: 1 800 869-3557.      
Mexico now uses 10 digit dialing Ex: 800 874-6725 calls Amazon MX. It also has 3 digit service numbers. 911, etc

----  Obi110 Mexico dial plan 2020 ---- Telmex now has unlimited free calls to the USA & Canada via 00 international

SP1 0 1 + 10 (US & Canada), 011 US International
SP2 411, & Callcentric customers
Line (911, 0xx, 1 +10 US & Canada -> SP1, 10 digit, #, Telmex 00 1 US & Canada)

PHONE Port -> DigitMap: ([1-9]x?*(Mpli)|[1-9]S9|[1-9][0-9]S9|0xx||x11|**0|***|#|**1(Msp1)|**2(Msp2)|(Mpli))

OutboundCallRoute:  Transforms & matches left to right then sends to the correct terminal (Port). If no terminal in the rule goes to the PrimaryLine.
{911|(<#:>):li},{411:sp2)},{(Mli):li},{(<**1:>(Msp1)):sp1},{(<**2:>(Msp2)):sp2}
911  |#  to Line, ,411 to sp2, Line DM ,    **1 -> DM -> sp1    ,    **2 -> DM -> sp2

Line DigitMap: (911|0[2-8]xS4|<011:**2011>xx.|<1:001>[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxx|#|[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxx|001[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|<01:**11>xxxxxxxxxx)

ITSP Profile B -> DigitMap: Default no change(1xxxxxxxxxx|<1>[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|011xx.|xx.|(Mipd)|[^*#]@@.)
      US 0 1 +10                 |011 US International)
ITSP Profile B -> DigitMap: (411:17771234567|411|1777xx..|<1>777xx..|011xx.) 411 & Callcentric customers. Add $5 for International
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==  Obi2120 Mexico dial plan 2020== Started with the 110 plan and added the 2 GV lines.
Maybe if Iput the SIP lines in SP1 & 2 then put the GV lines on SP3 & 4? Grasping at straws
My OBi212 can't use SP3 for some reason. HELP

PHONE Port -> DigitMap:
([1-9]x?*(Mpli)|[1-9]S9|[1-9][0-9]S9|x11|0xx|**0|***|#|(Mpli)|**1(Msp1)|**2(Msp2)|(Msp3))

OCR: {911|(<#:>):li},{(411|011x.|1777x.):sp3)},{(Mli):li},{(<**1:>(Msp1)):sp1},{(<**2:>(Msp2)):sp2}
I tried with ,{(<**3:>(Msp3)):sp3} or ,{(Msp3)} added but the **3 does not get deleted in the outgoing sequence as it does in SP1 and 2.
       
ITSP A & B GV  DM: (1xxxxxxxxxx|<1>[2-9]xxxxxxxxx)
(**1 + 10 US & Canada via SP1 & **2 +10 US & Canada via SP2)

ITSP C CC DM: (411:17771234567|411|1777xx.|011xx.)   Callcentric sees the number and says it is invalid, which it is as it always has **3
                 (                             411|Callcentric|011 US International)   
Callcentric sees the number and says it is invalid, which it is as it always has **3xx. not xx.


Line Port DM: (911|0[2-8]xS4|<1:001>[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxx|#|[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxx|001[2-9]xxxxxxxxx
|<01:**11>xxxxxxxxxx|<00:**21>xxxxxxxxxx)
I tried with |<09:**31>xxxxxxxxxx added but the **3 does not get deleted in the outgoing sequence as it does in SP1 and 2.

ITSP D IPC DM: No outbound
AA & OBI disabled
Obi configured InboundCallRoute: {(290058575)>(xx.):LI},{(290058575):aa},{ph}

SInce I can't get a response I'm going to reset the 212 and do thee 110 plan then add GV to SP3 & 4