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I want to use my OBi 110 with Google Voice and my unmonitored alarm system.

Started by Mikec, July 03, 2013, 06:07:47 PM

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Mikec

I realize this might not be the most reliable but now that we are both retired we are home a lot so might be OK. I simply want to use the Obi to call my cell if the alarm trips. I see alarm systems with a "dialer" that seems like it plugs in to the "phone line" which I don't have just the Google voice number ringing through the Obi. Will this work for the dialer that they supply you think? Anyone have experience with this setup? Remember I am not calling an alarm company just my cell. Thanks.

Shale

It could. I am not sure what you are asking, but whichever way I interpret it, you could probably make this work.

"they supply"...  They?  Radio Shack? ADT?

Do you have the system already? Are you planning to pay a monthly fee to an alarm company? Are you going to build this yourself?

Mikec

Don't have the wireless alarm system yet but noticed some I have looked at have the dialer accessory that plugs into a phone line. Asking I  will be able to use the line provided by the Obi with my Google Voice number to dial out. I'm not calling out to a monitor service just want to be called on my cell as an alert to alarm going off.
Obi with GV is my home phone, no phone line into home. Anyone?

RFord

Mikec:

Since you do not have a System at this point, I would forget about dialing your Cell number as a means of self-monitoring.  I would get a DSC system that is compatible with the EnvisaLink 3, a $99 module that when link with your Alarm Sysem, allows you to get all sorts of information, including all opening/Closing Alerts, being able to remotely Arm/Disarm your system from your Smart Phone or PC/Tablet, receive alarm Events, etc.  I have this Module install in my Ademco 20P Panel.  Note this module is only compatible with Certain DSC and Ademco Panels (not the cheap/useless wireless system).

The whole idea of having your Alarm System call your cell phone with very to no detail as to what triggered the alarm, is pretty much useless.  There are fairly inexpensive Central Station Monitoring out there and run about $8 - $10 per month, which is probably less than the annual discount on your Home Insurance Policy.  If you choose to go the self-montoring route, nothing beats the EnvisaLink 3, since there is no fees associated with the use of the device. 

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Rick

100% agree.  I have cell monitoring on my alarm (after dropping my landline and not having reliable transmission with an internet reporting box provided by the alarm company). While I pay around $265 a year, I get more than that in discounts on my homeowner's insurance.  Make sure you check with them regarding the discounts, they usually discount for a monitored burglary/fire, then add more discounts for CO detectors, freeze detectors, and flood detectors.  I bought many of the detectors on eBay for $20 or less.

GV is NOT reliable for an alarm panel to dial, nor is any VoIP provider.  The transmission of tones over the line, once a connection is made, is the main issue.  If all you want to do is get a phone call on your cell, and use identification of that number as telling you the alarm went off, then you can do that.

Mikec

Making me think I should use the wiring in my house from the ADT "free" alarm we got decades ago with a new hard wired system and cheap broadband monitoring and forget the line issue.

Shale

Easy answer: the OBi can serve as a phone line, although it is not as reliable as a central office phone line -- particularly if the OBi, router and modem are not on a UPS that will supply power long enough.

Here is something that seems theoretically possible, although I am not recommending it:

Presuming that it uses tone dialing, have the OBi translate the number that the ADT box is trying to dial to your cell number.

Now I don't know if the box won't try test calls or status update calls periodically. So maybe you would get calls at odd hours. The OBi translation part is possible.

A third party voice dialer would be simplest. It could dial more than one number. It might tell you if the call was a burglar alarm call, or if it was a basement flood.